Dig it! Mark's pedalboard rebuild thread.
- Thread starter Mark Wein
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Seriously. Now I can finally try and get everything programmed. I really wish there was a computer based editor for the ES-8 but no such luck.
It looks like it's work pretty slick even though it's just a beta release. Luckily I have two weeks to get this sorted out before my next rock gig.
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baimun
Funkasaurus Rex
DAMMIT.
This thread has got me seriously considering the ES5. I don't have nearly as many pedals, but being able to change multiple at the same time and NOT KICKING KNOBS WITH MY BIG STUPID FEET would be a big bonus. I would probably run everything into the pedal and then the out of that into the RK5 so I could use the cab sim and tap tempo delay as the last part of my chain. I would move my looper to my second board (both Loopers would be side by side with midi sync between them) so for a solo gig I would just run the outs from each source (guitar rig, guitar synth, drum pad, vocals) to the two loopers and then out to the mixer.
This thread has got me seriously considering the ES5. I don't have nearly as many pedals, but being able to change multiple at the same time and NOT KICKING KNOBS WITH MY BIG STUPID FEET would be a big bonus. I would probably run everything into the pedal and then the out of that into the RK5 so I could use the cab sim and tap tempo delay as the last part of my chain. I would move my looper to my second board (both Loopers would be side by side with midi sync between them) so for a solo gig I would just run the outs from each source (guitar rig, guitar synth, drum pad, vocals) to the two loopers and then out to the mixer.
Chad
Slender Hobbit
Honestly, if you are a gigging guitar player with multiple pedals, I can't see not getting one of these. I showed these to my brother in law and he got angry these weren't around back when we gigged. His board was so big and he kicked so many on and off at the same time, there were a few songs where I would kick on a pedal for him.
gtrjunior
Wannabe
If you're not already, you can program each patch according to song...All this and a new midi cable and it finally all works!
I programmed a bunch of sounds into the möbius tonight. Next I need to organize my patches in the ES-8 so that they make sense on stage.
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If we actually used set lists I would. Things are too chaotic onstage with this band to get too organized.
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Dogsinplastic
avuncular to no one
Yeah that's long been a selling point of the all-in-one units with memory for years, but it's the rare player that's happy with all of effects from those devices. I think these switchers are ideal for the gigging player (or the affluent hobbyist). You get to use the pedals you actually love from ANY manufacturer and map them to your needs.
Obviously everyone gets this, but it's actually kind of amazing that it took so long for these become available. The technology has been there for decades (at least), but it was limited to the given manufacturer of the all in one units. You'd think Boss, Digitech, DOD, and the like would have realized the market for the stand alone switching systems years ago.
Help!I'maRock!
Mediocringly Derivative
Don't sell yourself short. You're a tremendous dinker.
gtrjunior
Wannabe
I have a buddy that plays in a band that follows a strict set list so he programs by the song. But I take an approach more like you. If I have a handful of useful sounds I can make that go a long way. And there's always the option of pre-programming a song or two that may need something different
gtrjunior
Wannabe
Back in the day, you'd pay Bob Bradshaw a butt-load of money to custom build you a switching system.
baimun
Funkasaurus Rex
@Mark Wein this video may help with the midi patch changes. I don't know what the continuous change part of the patch is all about but maybe turning those off is what you need to get your midi changes right.
Actually thats the one I've been using. I ended up updating the firmware and doing a factory reset (and replacing my midi cable) and now it works.
baimun
Funkasaurus Rex
I'm leaning towards the ES5 with my existing pedals.... and then looking at either a Strymon Mobius or an Eventide H9. I like the idea of analogue and digital pedals in an analogue switching system vs any kind of modelling like the Fractal stuff. It will allow a more progressive learning curve and easier editing on the fly versus trying to edit some kind of modelling patch.
Chad
Slender Hobbit
That and you don't like an effect, you can swap it instead of settling for what comes in the unit.
Gorgon90
Harmonic Dive Bomber
There have been rack mount variants of these things around for ages if you were happy mounting pedals on a shelf or in a rack drawer. Notables from back in the day included:
- Sound Sculpture Switchblade
- Voodoo Labs GCX/Ground Control
- Rocktron Patchmate
- Rolls RFX Patchwork
- Laney Babelswitch
- Kenton GS-8
- Nobels Alex -1 Loopers with MS-4 or MS-8 Midi switchers.