Cobain - Thoughts?

He (and Grohl too!!!) have that beautiful melodic scream where there's pitch, edge, and fragility that all line up perfectly and it's something I've always been very envious of.

I'm actually doing a Nirvana song for the new Coverfest. Just as a warning to the haters. :embarrassed:
 
Didn't like his music much, but he was clearly a good songwriter (lyrics way too depressive though imo).

I really like most of the stuff Grohl's done with the Foos though. :)
He was always the real talent in the band imo.
 
SHIT!

Wouldn't you know it.....I have that Bowie cover stuck in my head......


Especially the part where he hits that bum guitar note.....arggggh!!!!!

Damn you, Sunvalleylaw!
:lol:
 
HaHa!! I like that cover. I have had PJ, Crazy Mary, an acoustic version stuck in my head for a few days. It has just been purged by Dexter's sunshiney Norwegian pop music he posted.
 
Coralkong said:
I never liked him, to be honest.

Not a flame, but an honest opinion.

I thought Nirvana tried too hard to be "anti-social" or "anti-establishment".
To ME, it just seemed like a more depressing version of the 70's punk scene.

I have never heard a "happy" or "kick-ass" song by Nirvana.
The lyrics all just seemed like miserable, self-pitying, heroin-laden, teen angst.

Their music was sloppy. His guitar playing was (IMHO) average at best.

Then he killed himself.

messedup0

I really have very little respect for his music, and even less for the man.

Only so much of the "Look at me, I'm a miserable heroin-addicted millionaire. I'm so misunderstood. Woe unto me." bullshit I can take.

Oh, did I mention he killed himself and left behind a wife and infant?

:annoyed:

I turn off Nirvana when it comes on the radio.

"I want to eat your cancer when you die."

Super. :annoyed:

I'm sorry, Is the above a flame?
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This
 
I like both Cobain and Nirvana a lot more in retrospect than I did when they came out.

I do think they were the most influential band of the last 20 years. They certainly aren't my favorite band of the last 20 years, though I do actually enjoy a lot of their songs.
 
Big fan. What he and his contemporaries did reconfigured the very notion of rock/pop stardom (and fandom!) in big and small ways. I think y'all make too much of the "depressing" thing. A lot of his lyrics are sardonic and/or nonsensical. Also, one of the reasons Cobain is such a singular figure in "alternative" or underground or whatever culture is that he managed to pull in a lot of strands from a lot of (often conflicting) scenes and present all this stuff charismatically to a mainstream audience. I mean, he's likely responsible for bands like the Pixies and the Raincoats and the Vaselines and whomever having a second shot at an audience and a payday.
 
I use to not be a fan at all, but then i actually listened to them and ended up liking nirvana quite a bit. I do think the whole tragedy surrounding his death has been a bit over-analyzed, Layne Staley was a much better singer and he pretty much killed himself too but there aren't any movies about him. Its strange to me how they became more popular for that, but it doesn't hinder my ability to enjoy the music that Kurt left behind. Meh, beats the fuck out of nickelback.......
 
We just hosted a barbecue and campfire in our backyard, and had music spanning the 80's and 90's (some 70's when you count the Clash, Iggy and the Stooges, and the Ramones), first, then more a 90's set. Both were iPod based Genius lists based off of songs. The first was based off actually a recent song by The Len Price 3, and that brought up the Clash, etc. even including Black Flag. The second, later in the evening, was based off Pennyroyal Tea from the Nirvana Unplugged disc. The group loved hearing the mixes, and the consensus was that Kurt had something special. That although Cornell, Vedder, Weiland, Billy Joe Armstrong, Dexter Holland, and all the earlier guys rocked, Kurt had something going that was a bit different. I miss it, and wish he could have remained ironic in view, kept it in perspective, and not let the scene suck him in. He ended up taking it too seriously I think.

Of course the post death aftermath was silly, and like I said, really kind of ironic. But that was not really him. It is like saying Hendrix's sister really has anything valid to say about Hendrix when she is selling Vodka and whatever. Not saying Nirvana is Hendrix or anything, just saying the media, corporate salesmen and advertising slobs have used both. Staley was special too, and I think the lack of media after his passing is more the fault of the media. For some reason, they didn't think they could profit from him as much is my guess.
 
I actually thought he had decent tone, believe it or not. Aside from that, though, I cant stand the whole slop vibe they put out. It's everything I DONT like about guitar playing. But that shouldnt surprise anyone here considering you all know I like teh metulz.
 
His songwriting (mostly because of his vocal parts) and his voice were awesome. Perfect for what he did and I love their songs. I'm a fan.
 
Coralkong said:
I never liked him, to be honest.


I thought Nirvana tried too hard to be "anti-social" or "anti-establishment".

I have never heard a "happy" or "kick-ass" song by Nirvana.
The lyrics all just seemed like miserable, self-pitying, heroin-laden, teen angst.
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And that's exactly who Kurt was. Read a biography and you'll realize it wasn't all an act like so many of today's bands. His music was him laying it all out for everyone to see, except his lyrics were often coded and he'd never admit to what anything actually meant in interviews. He left you to speculate, but if you have any background on the kind of person he was you know. So I'd say he did a great job writing songs and lyrics to express himself. If you don't relate to that, well that's perfectly understandable.

For instance, In Bloom is about all the jocks that Kurt despised that would come to their shows, listen to their music and pump their fists. But the songs weren't for them, they weren't about them, they were about everything opposite of them, and they didn't even realize it. There he was, bashing a large portion of his fan base and they didn't even realize it because the song is just that damn catchy you have to sing along. Now THAT'S talent.

"He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
Knows not what it means
when I say
He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
Knows not what it means
when I say yeeeaaahhh"
 
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