WHAT ARE YOU LISTENING TO......RIGHT NOW......Mk III

DdBob said:
That sound they had was just so unique….nobody else even remotely like them. They were some kinda space rock n roll boogie band…the red and the black , how do you even describe that sound
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Exactly, they def. followed their own path of strange coolness…very fun to deep dive their catalog because it’s so varied and unpredictable. Don’t know if you’ve ever heard this album, before they officially became BOC, it’s even a bit more weird and psychedelic than some of the stuff that followed…really quirky and catchy.

 
Machinegunner said:
Exactly, they def. followed their own path of strange coolness…very fun to deep dive their catalog because it’s so varied and unpredictable. Don’t know if you’ve ever heard this album, before they officially became BOC, it’s even a bit more weird and psychedelic than some of the stuff that followed…really quirky and catchy.

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Gaw damn that sounds good! Love the country tinge of the first song but again there's so much more going on than the regular stuff of that era and style, I'm thinking it's Dharma's guitar/ vocals and Blooms vocals ( and the songwriting of course which is probably Dharma) . Bloom certainly had a different timbre and Dharma was doing it different than everything else of the time then or now, It's like a fluid flurry of notes but doesn't sound noodley or forced....heck he probably sounded like that the first time he picked a guitar up.
Yeah I've never heard this or even of them. For some reason I never bothered to look information up on BOC , one of the few groups I haven't. I've dug them since probably 1982 when I first heard them. It really is impressive how well formed they were on the first album and how developed they already had the BOC sound albeit with a bit more psych and maybe some country tinge. I just downloaded it on Apple music and am only on Ragmuffin' Dumpling now. Thanks for posting that (edit( it's shocking that Columbia didn't sign them. Wiki says they rejected the band multiple times, unbelievable.
 
wow I shoulda looked BOC up long ago as I'm learning so much...it was their manager who wrote the lyrics and kinda steered by way of the band into their weird sci fi overtones. Also I never knew what the symbol was, always thought it was some kinda satan related thing :embarrassed: actually it is the sign for Saturn and apparently also greek for choas...very cool
 
DdBob said:
Gaw damn that sounds good! Love the country tinge of the first song but again there's so much more going on than the regular stuff of that era and style, I'm thinking it's Dharma's guitar/ vocals and Blooms vocals ( and the songwriting of course which is probably Dharma) . Bloom certainly had a different timbre and Dharma was doing it different than everything else of the time then or now, It's like a fluid flurry of notes but doesn't sound noodley or forced....heck he probably sounded like that the first time he picked a guitar up.
Yeah I've never heard this or even of them. For some reason I never bothered to look information up on BOC , one of the few groups I haven't. I've dug them since probably 1982 when I first heard them. It really is impressive how well formed they were on the first album and how developed they already had the BOC sound albeit with a bit more psych and maybe some country tinge. I just downloaded it on Apple music and am only on Ragmuffin' Dumpling now. Thanks for posting that (edit( it's shocking that Columbia didn't sign them. Wiki says they rejected the band multiple times, unbelievable.
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Yeah, it’s pretty impressive that Bloom and Buck had already cemented their styles so early on…usually a more gradual and evolving process for most artists. But I’d say that album is really up there with their best and quirkiest material, the only thing you really don’t hear much of is the heavier side. It’s funny that their label wanted them to be the US equivalent of Black Sabbath early on, very different sounding obviously…def. some country-psych tinged stuff going on. My father was actually working for Columbia during that time, so we can partially blame him…and for the whole Moby Grape debacle too :embarrassed: Ragamuffin’ Dumpling is def. one of my faves on that album also, A Fact About Sneakers is super groovy too with the Dead-esque mid section jams. Good snapshot from Buck here:
https://www.vintageguitar.com/2830/buck-dharma/
 
Machinegunner said:
Yeah, it’s pretty impressive that Bloom and Buck had already cemented their styles so early on…usually a more gradual and evolving process for most artists. But I’d say that album is really up there with their best and quirkiest material, the only thing you really don’t hear much of is the heavier side. It’s funny that their label wanted them to be the US equivalent of Black Sabbath early on, very different sounding obviously…def. some country-psych tinged stuff going on. My father was actually working for Columbia during that time, so we can partially blame him…and for the whole Moby Grape debacle too :embarrassed: Ragamuffin’ Dumpling is def. one of my faves on that album also, A Fact About Sneakers is super groovy too with the Dead-esque mid section jams. Good snapshot from Buck here:
https://www.vintageguitar.com/2830/buck-dharma/
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Yeah I saw that mentioned how they wanted the Cult to be an answer to Sabbath which is totally weird because we had so many other bands in the states which coulda been. I also remember BOC always being lumped in the "heavy metal" category which I never understood.
 
DdBob said:
Yeah I saw that mentioned how they wanted the Cult to be an answer to Sabbath which is totally weird because we had so many other bands in the states which coulda been. I also remember BOC always being lumped in the "heavy metal" category which I never understood.
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About as Metal as Jethro Tull when they beat out Metallica for that metal Grammy circa ‘89 or so :embarrassed:
 
Machinegunner said:
Loved that song and the abandoned structures/desolate scenery, I like to photograph subject matter like that whenever I have the opportunity. There’s def. a very distinct energy when you get out into those really sparse desert areas and stretches, it’s really unlike anything else…a calmness but a little spooky at the same time. The Salton Sea is about an hour and a half from where we live (I’ve lived in Riverside since 2017, Orange County from ‘89 to ‘04), but I’ve never been there. I’ve driven through the desert countless times en route to Vegas or Laughlin, have always enjoyed the sites and drive. Now that you brought it up, I think we’ll have to go soon…I’ve watched a few documentaries about it, the history is really interesting. It also brought to mind this old Bourdain episode with Josh Homme out in the desert:



I played the Ric almost exclusively the first month I had it, I finally gave it a rest and have been playing a few other guitars this past week or so. But I’m itching to get it out again already, there’s something about it that draws me to it…I’m sure to do with the unique feel and distinct sound, I never found myself getting tired of it at all.
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I love Mazzy Star and all that deserty goodness (Calexico is very desert too). Thinking about Rics and Mazzy Star: one of my favorite Rics is the Susanna Hoffs tribute model

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Did you know that David Roback from Mazzy Star and Susanna Hoffs were BF and GF and their first band was together?
 


I think 16 Horsepower would have never existed without this album. Maybe they could have done without Fire of Love, but Miami is the 'deepening the sound' one.

Also, Pixies's biggest influence must be The Gun Club. seriously.
 
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