HCEG 2.0 Fails, I'm comin over here!
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nuke_diver
Riding Solo
I'm here for the beer chears
_pete_
HCEG refugee
The only way to fix it is to leave.
The people who have stayed are only strengthening the case to keep Jive. Bitching and moaning in hundreds of threads will do nothing. They will say "Oh, we can fix that" when it's obvious that they don't understand why it was a problem in the first place. Eventually the bitching and moaning will stop and the site will limp along. If over half of the users leave, it hits them in the wallet. HC is part of a business and that business wants to make money. If the site is deserted, the ads will not generate revenue, the advertisers walk, and HC/MF/GC lose money. They will have to make a change to what the users want in order to restore their revenue stream.
They have to do it soon though. The people that have left will settle into other places and eventually forget about HC. If they make a major announcement soon that they made a mistake in choosing Jive and that they want to give their users the website they want, they will be rewarded for it.
By admitting defeat they will let their users know that they do care about them and the users will respond to that. The place would probably draw in more people by showing that they respond to what their customers want.
The only way to save HC is to leave HC.
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ExiledCrow
Les Paulverizer
You said it man, I'm trying to hang on over there, its the first guitar place that ever felt like home :( ... But, currently it's on life support and they don't seem to care much ...
_pete_
HCEG refugee
Don't hang out there. PM your friends there and tell them to leave also. If the traffic keeps dropping like it has, they will have no choice but to listen. Money talks and they will hear it.
I miss the place too but I'm convinced that leaving is the only hope that HC has.
Coralkong
Alien
We've all lost friends along the way.
It happens.
HC does NOT care about what we have to say. That much is obvious.
It is amazing that the people still posting there are the types that want to hear themselves and not hear anyone else.
It is sad, really.
I expect they have lost 70% of their traffic. And possible more!
It happens.
HC does NOT care about what we have to say. That much is obvious.
It is amazing that the people still posting there are the types that want to hear themselves and not hear anyone else.
It is sad, really.
I expect they have lost 70% of their traffic. And possible more!
As a business owner myself I always try to hit a poorly performing vendor or even just a place my family does business with that has terrible service in the place I know it hurts me...by not spending my money with them, so I can see what you're saying but I almost feel like it won't matter to the powers-that-be over there until it's too late.
They'll never roll back to the old site, but hopefully they will make the new one what the end users want...and hopefully not too late that they lose too much of their core membership that made HC what it was, and the reason why we all hung out there on a daily basis. I almost feel like folks need to keep the pressure on them to make the changes before the whole place loses it's steam and the membership gets dispersed to the other millions of music forums that are available to them online (like this one
).Not sure if I'm making my point or just confusing myself this morning, but I think if you want change I'd continue to post in the "New Forum Feedback" forums and not the on topic ones....
I'm stoked that so many of you guys have joined here, even if for many of you its temporary shelter in a storm. I love the energy and on-topic content you've all brought, too and I really hope you guys decide to stay with us
_pete_
HCEG refugee
As a business owner myself I always try to hit a poorly performing vendor or even just a place my family does business with that has terrible service in the place I know it hurts me...by not spending my money with them, so I can see what you're saying but I almost feel like it won't matter to the powers-that-be over there until it's too late.
They'll never roll back to the old site, but hopefully they will make the new one what the end users want...and hopefully not too late that they lose too much of their core membership that made HC what it was, and the reason why we all hung out there on a daily basis. I almost feel like folks need to keep the pressure on them to make the changes before the whole place loses it's steam and the membership gets dispersed to the other millions of music forums that are available to them online (like this one
Not sure if I'm making my point or just confusing myself this morning, but I think if you want change I'd continue to post in the "New Forum Feedback" forums and not the on topic ones....
Agreed.
They need to sack up and make a call right now.
People have left in droves and they only have a short time to get them back.
They won't go back to what they had but they can keep Jive for the main HC site. It can do the job for that but they have to dump the Jive forum. It's not usable. They can go with the latest vB platform and simply link it to the main site. Everybody wins.
nuke_diver
Riding Solo
Agreed Pete. I still go there because I have "friends" like Bryan Gunsher still there and want to keep in touch but I find it much more difficult to be motivated to go with the changes. For me a simple option of disabling avatars would go a long way...makes it easier to read at work 
The speed has improved some but it's still a bit of a problem but I can live with that if I can run it in the background
The speed has improved some but it's still a bit of a problem but I can live with that if I can run it in the background
Unless I'm missing something from the limited perspective of running such a small vBulletin site I would think that they could have just migrated the database info to a clean install of the old vBulletin version they were using (I'm not sure I'd trust the new version we have here to such a large site at this point in its life) and at least keep the forum people happy while they worked out the bugs.
Coralkong
Alien
Zemmy
Monkey With Tools
I'm stoked that so many of you guys have joined here, even if for many of you its temporary shelter in a storm. I love the energy and on-topic content you've all brought, too and I really hope you guys decide to stay with us
i want to stay permanently...
i'm not always on topic but this place is full of great people, and i love the video lessons
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I'm amazed if any thread stays on its original topic more that 5 posts in around here anyway
Hoople Head
Little Hot Wing
The saddest thing is that the busiest forum over there now is the "Feedback Forum" which is really just full of people bitching. The guitar forums are quieter than ever. The combo of the font and the color scheme makes it a chore to read. How hard is it to edit a few lines in the CSS??
My only experience with CSS is modifying this place but there are STYLEVARS (I'm not sure if thats just a vBulletin thing or its a real design word
) that allow you to change each components color or other parameter. This is what the default look of this site is:http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/It was a little hard on the eyes, too