Board, taking it all apart and starting over. Wanna help or comment?

Lerxst said:
I think it helps if you have some specific tones you know you want in your chain based around the type of music you typically play.

For me this covers my bases:
mild OD > more OD > splatty fuzz > mid-heavy/cutting saturated fuzz > super wooly mammoth fuzz > high gain
DLS >Bone Shaker > carcosa > suryua > pharoah >tight metal jr

stacking certain pedals in that set gets me some in-between tones and other noisy fun. Edit: out of those the carcosa isn't a mainstay sound I use and would get dropped if I need to make room elsewhere.
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Interesting. I will do a super chain of all the dirt and play around with that too.

I would say I want a Crazy Horse-ish sound, some various Stone Gossard sounds (depends on songs as to sound), Rivers Cuomo-ish lead sound, warm chimey sound for chords and potentially leads in cleaner songs, warm chimey with some chorus-ish sparkly mist sounds, I can come up with more. Not sure any of those descriptions really mean anything to anyone other than me and what those things mean to me in my ears in my head. But it can help me sort it out. Oh, and once I find those sounds, a way to add 10-20% bite and treble to cut through the mix that much more. Maybe a clean boost or an almost clean overdrive type boost.
 
sunvalleylaw said:
Interesting. I will do a super chain of all the dirt and play around with that too.

I would say I want a Crazy Horse-ish sound, some various Stone Gossard sounds (depends on songs as to sound), Rivers Cuomo-ish lead sound, warm chimey sound for chords and potentially leads in cleaner songs, warm chimey with some chorus-ish sparkly mist sounds, I can come up with more. Not sure any of those descriptions really mean anything to anyone other than me and what those things mean to me in my ears in my head. But it can help me sort it out. Oh, and once I find those sounds, a way to add 10-20% bite and treble to cut through the mix that much more. Maybe a clean boost or an almost clean overdrive type boost.
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This is making me think I need a jangle guitar. My tele might do it. But I might want an offset sometime. But, again, I bet I could get my tele to jangle. Mebbe. Hmm. Maybe my single coil strat neck pickup. Lots of tools to play with before I buy more stuff.
 
For Peter Buck jangle, I found this advice. :wink:
"Plastic dinosaurs on top of your AC30 helps."

Further in the same thread:

"It's all technique. Almost all arpeggios, plenty of treble, dig in but don't linger on each note.

For proof, just note that Everybody Hurts and One I Love were Ricky+AC30 and LP+Marshall respectively and sound virtually the same, tonally."
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
@sleewell and some others would be a better resource for making that distinction. All I can really say is that it's in the display.

As for the Peter Buck quotes, once you realize tone is a function of the entire system, it'll get easier to recreate the sounds you want and find your own sonic identity.
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Lerxst said:
unless you're set on doing tribute band thing, you eventually realize the truth in that
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Yeah, I don't see how I won't sound like me to some extent. I was identifying flavors and vibes I am interested in, rather than exact tones. You can presume that is what I mean when I mention a sound. And I will usually reference someone most people know as it is easier to talk about.
 
sunvalleylaw said:
Yeah, I don't see how I won't sound like me to some extent. I was identifying flavors and vibes I am interested in, rather than exact tones. You can presume that is what I mean when I mention a sound. And I will usually reference someone most people know as it is easier to talk about.
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That statement makes much more sense when you don't follow up your prior post with results from googling how to sound like peter buck. :wink:
 
Lerxst said:
That statement makes much more sense when you don't follow up your prior post with results from googling how to sound like peter buck. :wink:
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Hey, if I don't know how to putt into the cup, and want to putt into a 2 foot circumference circle around the cup, I still have to get some idea of how to get there.

I nearly always put my own spin on things I make for dinner, by changing some seasonings or adding or substituting ingredients. But I like some ideas of how to get close, before putting my own spin on things.

There is no way I would want to make an exact copy of a beer (were I still homebrewing), but I might like to get some help on figuring out how to get certain qualities of the beer I am being inspired by actually accomplished. For instance, I already wanted to work on my arpeggios, and know I can mess around with that while finding sounds that I find both jangly and pleasing to my own ear.

But yeah, the more I learn to use my own gear to get certain qualities I want, the easier coming up with what I want to sound like for whatever song will be.
 
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sunvalleylaw said:
Hey, if I don't know how to putt into the cup, and want to putt into a 20 foot circumference circle around the cup, I still have to get some idea of how to get there.

I nearly always put my own spin on things I make for dinner, by changing some seasonings or adding or substituting ingredients. But I like some ideas of how to get close, before putting my own spin on things.

There is no way I would want to make an exact copy of a beer (were I still homebrewing), but I might like to get some help on figuring out how to get certain qualities of the beer I am being inspired by actually accomplished. For instance, I already wanted to work on my arpeggios, and know I can mess around with that while finding sounds that I find both jangly and pleasing to my own ear.

But yeah, the more I learn to use my own gear to get certain qualities I want, the easier coming up with what I want to sound like for whatever song will be.
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That's all fine and good but unless this all just an exercise in navel gazing for yourself, you're making it challenging to provide feedback when your posting one thing but implying something else. Edit, I'm saying consider the reader, who doesn't know all of what's rattling around in your head.
 
Lerxst said:
That's all fine and good but unless this all just an exercise in navel gazing for yourself, you're making it challenging to provide feedback when your posting one thing but implying something else. Edit, I'm saying consider the reader, who doesn't know all of what's rattling around in your head.
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Good point. On stuff like this, due to lack of knowledge and experience, I can tend to be thinking out loud too much, and may not have completely even formed my idea. The thread has worked for me so far as to getting some ideas on how to approach what I am trying to do, so that has worked. But sorry it has been a bit difficult from the reader's point of view, starting with my wall of text.
 
New power supply got here. And so it begins.

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Ok, though this video is pretty awful in terms of how much time we waste watching him screw in Phillips head screws to the brackets, and if he says “handy dandy” one more time, I think I am going to reach through my screen into YouTube and hit him, this shows me how I will mount the power supply to that larger piece of plywood in the brown suitcase (large board). I will screw on wood in the back to lift the rear, (and probably put a little lift in the front too) to give enough room for the CS12, and with a hole saw, jig saw, and whatever cut channels for patch cables and power cables in the board as well. I have the strong interlocking stuff and will use that for the pedals, etc. And with that, it should still fit in the suitcase. I will likely find some foam to put in the suit case to take up any free room in the suitcase and hold and protect the pedals, in case I want to haul this thing around sometime. I also have additional, more secure, latches to add to the suitcase to hold it closed, more strongly than the old Samsonite latches that I just don’t trust.

So, board planning is underway.


 
Ok, I am going to copy the basics of this design, with a narrow channel up at the top of the board, and those other channels cut into the board. I will cut either a slice or put a couple hole saw holes (easier) in the rear support piece for the AC power cord to get into the TrueTone. I will try to make one slot big enough so I can see down in to the various pedal plug in places on the power supply. And probably, rather than screwing and glueing the main board into the side supports, as they did, I will have the main board rest on the supports, and glue and screw down into the supports. And perhaps will put a couple little L-brackets underneath to help strengthen that. And no fancy wood. Just plywood or extra 2x that I have around the house.

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Also some good ideas here, though I like the look of cutting slots rather than just screwing pallet looking boards down. But I like how many slots there are. And for routing and underneath installation, I like the ideas.

http://www.planetz.com/pedaltrain-inspired-diy-pedal-board/

Similar ideas.

 
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And I found this cable making stuff I forgot I had. I should probably use it. I only have enough jacks for 3 cables. I might order some pancake style as well. I have 6 feet of the Mogami cable, so should get a few good patch cable runs out of that.

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