Shooting at Jason Aldean show in Las Vegas, 50+ dead

Help!I'maRock! said:
IMO, the one change we should all be able to agree on, is repealing the law that prevents the CDC from studying gun violence/deaths. The problem is the budget amendment that disallows the CDC from studying gun violence, is reauthorized every year. It was introduced in 1996, during the Clinton Administration. Both Democrats and Republicans are complicit in the dearth of information.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...hut-down-for-20-years/?utm_term=.5530f9594dd2
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This is the single most baffling and damning thing about the whole gun debate. It's no different than the big tobacco conspiracy or climate change denial... valuing money and political position over human life. It's disgusting.
 
wagdog said:
I don't believe infringing on the rights of law abiding citizens will cut the rate in half.
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The segment of the population that most of the mass killers and domestic terrorists have come out of is the "law abiding" citizens segment. We don't have a lot of former liquor store or bank robbers suddenly deciding to kill masses of people, they just need money. We do have a lot of NRA members, gun show attendees, and up until the point they commit a mass atrocity "law abiding citizens" doing mass killings.

Like the unicorn or the dragon the career criminal mass-killer is yet another mythical creature.
 
I said, tinted, not necessarily tinted brown. You could be tinted rainbow, or pink, or heck, just "not our tint," and down you go.

Ralph Ellison looks like fucking Nostradamus at this point.
 
Hate to be a nitpicker, but there are career criminal mass killers. Whitey Bulger, for one.

Also, before claiming that his victims were his colleagues, please read up on it -- he killed more than fellow gangsters.
 
Danhedonia said:
Hate to be a nitpicker, but there are career criminal mass killers. Whitey Bulger, for one.

Also, before claiming that his victims were his colleagues, please read up on it -- he killed more than fellow gangsters.
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I don't know if Bulger counts. While he certainly killed a lot of people, he killed to protect himself and his operation. He didn't just decide to kill a bunch of people at once.

His killings were a means to an end, not the end in and of itself.
 
GomezAddams said:
I don't know if Bulger counts. While he certainly killed a lot of people, he killed to protect himself and his operation. He didn't just decide to kill a bunch of people at once.

His killings were a means to an end, not the end in and of itself.
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This is why I suggested researching -- it's simply not true. He killed frequently, and many of the killings he authored were not "a means to an end."

In fact, he often killed out of rage, when it did not suit his goals.
 
Danhedonia said:
This is why I suggested researching -- it's simply not true. He killed frequently, and many of the killings he authored were not "a means to an end."

In fact, he often killed out of rage, when it did not suit his goals.
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Fair point. I have to admit I don't know much about him, other than he was apparently some of the lowest of scum that the human race produced.
 
Whitey killed for strategic purpose - and also for the sheer fun of terrifying people. Or because he had a bad day (infamously killed one dude because he cut him off in traffic - talk about road rage).

And the more you learn, the uglier it gets: his henchmen who had predilection for jailbait, and often wound up snuffing their inappropriate objects of desire. These details are one reason Bostonians get so het up about him -- for a long time, he cultivated a Robin Hood myth, and in reality he was a stone cold killer.

Really good at being a fugitive, though.
 
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