why don't more companies use split shaft tuners?

[Help!I'maRock!]

they're easy to restring, have decent tuning ratios (at least the newer ones do), and keep everything nice and tidy. where's the love?

 

[Mark Wein]

you mean like the klusons with the hole in the center?

 

[Elias Graves]

Because a hole leaves one less vector for string escapage?

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

you mean like the klusons with the hole in the center?

yes, but modern, non-shitty ones that don't stick and have at least a 12:1 ratio.

 

[Mark Wein]

yes, but modern, non-shitty ones that don't stick and have at least a 12:1 ratio.

I use the Gotoh versions on all my guitars. they work just fine.

 

[baimun]

The split shaft are my favorite non-locking tuner.... particularly the ones with the hole in the center that you can tuck the string end down into. No sharp pokies on the headstock.

 

[mosiddiqi]

The split shaft are my favorite non-locking tuner.... particularly the ones with the hole in the center that you can tuck the string end down into. No sharp pokies on the headstock.

+1

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

This is what I am saying to you.

 

[mosiddiqi]

This is what I am saying to you.

You're preaching to the pulpit.

 

[Tiltsta]

I've never been a big fan of the split shaft. I find the damn strings pop out of the center hole much easier in the 'first restringing step' than in the hole in the post models. I'm sure there is some 'user error' component to this.

I like the ease of a good set of locking tuners the best.

 

[Chad]

The split shaft are my favorite non-locking tuner.... particularly the ones with the hole in the center that you can tuck the string end down into. No sharp pokies on the headstock.

This

 

[sunvalleylaw]

You guys mean tuners like these on my tele? I like them pretty well but I had to get used to stringing them as opposed to the ones with the small hole in the shaft.

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

You guys mean tuners like these on my tele? I like them pretty well but I had to get used to stringing them as opposed to the ones with the small hole in the shaft.

all tuners have a small hole in the shaft.

 

[reverend1]

I have always wondered that too. Although I'm fine with locking tuners.

 

[Modern Saint]

Easy to string, quick and fast. Locking tuners take longer for me and are only good on whammy bar guitars anyway

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

Locking tuners take longer for me and are only good on whammy bar guitars anyway

no, they're not.

 

[reverend1]

no, they're not.

They're good on everything or they are not good at all?

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

They're good on everything or they are not good at all?

they're not "better" for vibrato instruments. in fact, it doesn't matter at all.

 

[reverend1]

they're not "better" for vibrato instruments. in fact, it doesn't matter at all.

Ok, I like them on everything. In fact I don't have a guitar without them.

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

Ok, I like them on everything. In fact I don't have a guitar without them.

that's fine. but just because an instrument has a vibrato or doesn't makes no difference to the locking tuner.