TomcatMF
Vetteless
Actually demand for new cars has been slipping for the last few years as people are hanging on to their cars longer or looking for used cars to replace their old ones since most new cars are out of their price range.
Who else is fed up with car culture and the auto obsession ?
- Thread starter DdBob
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Actually demand for new cars has been slipping for the last few years as people are hanging on to their cars longer or looking for used cars to replace their old ones since most new cars are out of their price range.
rickenvox
Animal Psychic
that's exactly what I was talking about and it's a good trend.
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Rick 381
Boob Enthusiast
I had a Metro. Worst POS ever. I really felt guilty selling it to someone. It would have been good Karma to junk it. To like that car would mean liking having to take the right lane and hit your 4 ways every time you came to a decent sized hill. To enjoy that car would mean loving the idea that every time it rained hard and you hit a decent sized puddle it was anybody's guess what direction you would be facing when you came out of it. There's a reason that POS isn't sold anymore.
DdBob
Dogue in teh desert
I think they reason they are not sold is Chevy gained rights (from my recollection) of Geo because Geo dissapeared and then you had Chevy Metros. I imagine it had to do with some kinda financial profit margin most likely.
Why did you have to hit your emergency flasher going downhill? Even a VW bus can hit 60 going downhill. There must've been something wrong with your Metro if you spun in a puddle....heck my first and only car (drove trucks ever since) was a 1970 Mustang with drum brakes in the front....now with that I had to hold on going through puddles but i was also 16 and going to fast. A car that needs to be thought about while driven (according to your post...the Metro) is not such a bad thing imho. That's why nutty drivers were not such a problem back in the day and also why people didn't just put on the miles willy nilly.
Denverdave
Resident Ragamuffin
Milage is another bad by product of the modern car. I've thought about this a lotthe reason so many cars have 200,000 or more now is because of great gas milage and comfort. It's also allowed people to move miles and miles away from their work. I couldn't begin to tell you how many cars come in with over 200,000 and less than 7 years old...had a 2014 f150 last week with 196,000...that's almost 35,000 miles per year...about 300o miles per month (in the old days you'd get an oil change every month with that milage)....about 750 miles per week...wtf ! In 8 years I've owned my Jeep I've put 41,000 total and I've been to Colorado, California, NM, , utah and Nevada but then again I live 1.4 miles away from work. I think the farthest commute I ever had was 8 miles one way.
Yep. I drive 120 miles a day just as my work commute. Trying to find something closer to home, but to no avail thus far.
mongooz
Sic Semper Tyrannis ☨
TBH, i'd rather have the Cayman than the 911. a Cayman is nearly as fast and handles WAY better than a 911, and prior to 2016 has the same (albeit detuned) engine as the 911. same goes for the Boxster (same car without the roof)
2008, 79K miles
$25K
Right next door in Houston. Man oh man.
If it were mine, I'd park it far away from everyone else in the parking lot.
Half an hour later when I return, it'd have two giant F-350s on either side.
edit: the above sentiment does not include vintage 911's, 1966 ~ 1975!
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Rick 381
Boob Enthusiast
Uphill. It hydroplaned badly. It had good rubber. I think it was just too light to deal with a 1-2" puddle.
Denverdave
Resident Ragamuffin
People like me will buy their car used and get a great deal.....but not an F150 or Charger.
rickenvox
Animal Psychic
smorgdonkey
Kick Henry Jackassowski
I don't have much for most of the new stuff but I love many of the 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s vehicles.
That said, I drive a 2015 Toyota Corolla now with a CVT transmission and it is an engineering marvel compared to my 2010 KIA Rio5 that I was driving. The KIA was a great vehicle, it had only one real flaw in that it was geared too low to get great fuel economy at highway speeds but this Toyota is in a completely different class and that is very obvious upon driving it.
That said, I drive a 2015 Toyota Corolla now with a CVT transmission and it is an engineering marvel compared to my 2010 KIA Rio5 that I was driving. The KIA was a great vehicle, it had only one real flaw in that it was geared too low to get great fuel economy at highway speeds but this Toyota is in a completely different class and that is very obvious upon driving it.
Help!I'maRock!
Mediocringly Derivative
I’m fed up with old men yelling at clouds culture.
I like cars. I consider myself a car guy. I especially like cool cars. I suppose in some ways this makes me part of the problem.
I certainly can get behind some of the craziness in the market in regards to prices, HP wars, feature bloat, etc that seem to be a never ending escalation towards another financial hiccup when people start defaulting on those 84 month car loans when interest rates climb a tiny bit. Used seems to be the way to go, or at least staying within a reasonable budget. I’ve read a lot of articles over on Jalopnik and such describing the magnitude of the car loan market, especially in the sub prime segment.
Another thing that has always bugged me is the HP wars seem like a missed opportunity to rather push efficiency. I don't care about sports cars and muscle car power levels, as those cars should be fast. Why do minivans need 300 hp? If engine tech has evolved so much in the last few decades, why didn’t we use that to make smaller, more efficient engines with less environmental impact? Probably all this effort should be put into hyper efficient hybrid gas assist motors and battery tech. I suppose one can add the crazy need for giant SUVs to this rant. Where did all the station wagons go?
I certainly can get behind some of the craziness in the market in regards to prices, HP wars, feature bloat, etc that seem to be a never ending escalation towards another financial hiccup when people start defaulting on those 84 month car loans when interest rates climb a tiny bit. Used seems to be the way to go, or at least staying within a reasonable budget. I’ve read a lot of articles over on Jalopnik and such describing the magnitude of the car loan market, especially in the sub prime segment.
Another thing that has always bugged me is the HP wars seem like a missed opportunity to rather push efficiency. I don't care about sports cars and muscle car power levels, as those cars should be fast. Why do minivans need 300 hp? If engine tech has evolved so much in the last few decades, why didn’t we use that to make smaller, more efficient engines with less environmental impact? Probably all this effort should be put into hyper efficient hybrid gas assist motors and battery tech. I suppose one can add the crazy need for giant SUVs to this rant. Where did all the station wagons go?
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smorgdonkey
Kick Henry Jackassowski
They know how to make cars infinitely more efficient right now and that is by vaporizing the gasoline first before introducing it into the combustion chambers. The only thing that needs to change is timing of valves and ignition. Vehicles could be getting 5 times the distance out of the same volume of fuel.
Acadiafall
Kiss Me Hardy
I drive a Ford C-Max. Its brilliant and I don't need anything else
Pine Apple Slim
Armchair Expert
Cars are utilitarian items.
Motorcycles, now that's worth obsessing over.
Motorcycles, now that's worth obsessing over.
I like cars.
I’ve got a couple of old cars for fun drives and projects.
My daily driver is a truck, because I wanted to see if I was a truck person. I enjoy the vehicle, but I’m not a truck person.
I added a bed liner because I didn’t want to bang up the bed. I added a bug deflector because it can help reduce stone hits to the hood.
I don’t wash it every weekend.
I do get it rust proofed every year.
That’s sounds like I’m treating it like a car, but I don’t take care of cars like that.
I bought it when I needed a four door vehicle for long trips with a few people along for the ride. The interior is comfortable and while it’s a basic trim package, there are enough amenities to make the ride pleasant.
Yeah, it has 4x4, but I was honestly looking for one that didn’t have it. They don’t exist in the package that I was looking for. No, I don’t off road it. I don’t even have need to drive down a dirt road. I would if I had to, but I don’t so I don’t.
I want to add dual exhaust for the performance, but I don’t want a loud exhaust note. I don’t want to be THAT guy.
If that truck is an extension of my personality, then I’m a boring guy. Maybe that’s true. I just don’t make the connection between the two.
I’ve got a couple of old cars for fun drives and projects.
My daily driver is a truck, because I wanted to see if I was a truck person. I enjoy the vehicle, but I’m not a truck person.
I added a bed liner because I didn’t want to bang up the bed. I added a bug deflector because it can help reduce stone hits to the hood.
I don’t wash it every weekend.
I do get it rust proofed every year.
That’s sounds like I’m treating it like a car, but I don’t take care of cars like that.
I bought it when I needed a four door vehicle for long trips with a few people along for the ride. The interior is comfortable and while it’s a basic trim package, there are enough amenities to make the ride pleasant.
Yeah, it has 4x4, but I was honestly looking for one that didn’t have it. They don’t exist in the package that I was looking for. No, I don’t off road it. I don’t even have need to drive down a dirt road. I would if I had to, but I don’t so I don’t.
I want to add dual exhaust for the performance, but I don’t want a loud exhaust note. I don’t want to be THAT guy.
If that truck is an extension of my personality, then I’m a boring guy. Maybe that’s true. I just don’t make the connection between the two.
As for the horsepower wars, I’m on three sides of the fence.
For daily drivers, who cares. Just give me enough power to merge safely onto the highway and the few rare times you need a quick goose of power to get out of jam. Otherwise, it needs to have a purpose like towing stuff as an example.
The silly part of that though is my wife drives a Challenger R/T. It has a HEMI. I have no idea what the HP rating is without googling it.
I do like the idea of high horsepower toys but even if I was a multi-billionaire I can’t envision myself owning a super car. I’d probably spend a lot on older cars though.
For daily drivers, who cares. Just give me enough power to merge safely onto the highway and the few rare times you need a quick goose of power to get out of jam. Otherwise, it needs to have a purpose like towing stuff as an example.
The silly part of that though is my wife drives a Challenger R/T. It has a HEMI. I have no idea what the HP rating is without googling it.
I do like the idea of high horsepower toys but even if I was a multi-billionaire I can’t envision myself owning a super car. I’d probably spend a lot on older cars though.