What happened to this place?

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An actual picture of MWGL three years ago...

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An actual picture of MWGL today...

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Those illustrations could also be used to describe the world as a whole. The general outlook on life, especially in the US, was much cheerier.

Is it impossible to think that it's our outlooks outside of the forum that have changed and the political thread is merely a direct view of that rather than an indirect reflection in the rest of the forum that we would see anyway?

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Those illustrations could also be used to describe the world as a whole. The general outlook on life, especially in the US, was much cheerier.

Is it impossible to think that it's our outlooks outside of the forum that have changed and the political thread is merely a direct view of that rather than an indirect reflection in the rest of the forum that we would see anyway?

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The collective 'walking on sunshine' attitude was kind of an illusion. It's not as though America's problems with extreme conservatism, racism, misogyny, anti-science doublespeak, etc., appeared out of nowhere with 9/11, the Obama inauguration, and the 2016 election. That was a position of privilege and a time of unsustainable economic growth. The only real difference is that things are out in the open rather than being swept under the rug, and people are (rightfully) experiencing anger rather than remaining complacent. We need more of that, not less.
 
The responses to this thread are an excellent illustration of why many no longer visit regularly.
I pop in from time to time to see if anything has changed then I see it hasn't...

And, yes, Jello you are absolutely correct in your assessment that the inclusion of politics here is what has driven members away.

Like sports, many of us use music as a means to escape the turbulence of our insane world. Just like espn is killing sports with their turn toward politics, another refuge is gone here.

You know, you don't have any right to claim the moral high ground here. If you ever possessed any, you've long-since abandoned it. You don't get to claim refuge or escape or safe spaces. You've spewed racism on the Internet for years, you can't play innocent and claim that your hatred shouldn't follow you, any more than Trump can.

Exemplary tip of the iceberg:

Nobody hates muslims for no good reason. They give us plenty of reasons to do so. Slavery, rape, crucifixion, murder, theft, religious intolerance, abuse of women, murder and rape of children. All in furtherance of their death cult. Is it bigoted to hate bigots? The muslims are the biggest group of intolerance anywhere on earth. Their entire "religion" is based on killing those who don't toe the line. You can sit and call me a bigot all you like...you have no idea what I've been through in my own personal life of faith, enduring all manner of insults from leftists about my faith. Is that also bigotry? Why do they hate me for my beliefs? Why do they tell me I have to change yet make excuses for jihadists selling women into concubines? Take your bigotry, put it in your pipe and smoke it, pal. Any group like muslims that makes their life's work killing the nonbeliever is scum and deserves to be shut down.

You are no victim, you are the disease. You are a vile poisonous hateful person, and you've spread that in your communities and on your children. I know that you suffer the delusion that you're a good person, that you see yourself as an informed, cultured, educated intelligent person, etc., but those are delusions, simple as that. You can go to mass as often as you like, but if there is a literal hell, then you're going to have to start digging your way out of it while you still can. I sincerely doubt that you have it in you, though, and I suspect that you'll be in for an unpleasant surprise.
 
Those threads are creepy as fuck. BDSM porn is literally less misogynistic.
I stand by my statement...lol
And it's not like they were forced to pose for the pictures. Clearly they are showing off the goods and want to be looked at.
 
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You know, you don't have any right to claim the moral high ground here. If you ever possessed any, you've long-since abandoned it. You don't get to claim refuge or escape or safe spaces. You've spewed racism on the Internet for years, you can't play innocent and claim that your hatred shouldn't follow you, any more than Trump can.

Exemplary tip of the iceberg:



You are no victim, you are the disease. You are a vile poisonous hateful person, and you've spread that in your communities and on your children. I know that you suffer the delusion that you're a good person, that you see yourself as an informed, cultured, educated intelligent person, etc., but those are delusions, simple as that. You can go to mass as often as you like, but if there is a literal hell, then you're going to have to start digging your way out of it while you still can. I sincerely doubt that you have it in you, though, and I suspect that you'll be in for an unpleasant surprise.

shitposts like this are exactly why I don't post here. I remember a few people from the HCEG/GJ days (ponchos, rubber asses and all), but who needs the b.s. drama from people who want to "win at the internet"...

isn't there a rule about personal attacks on this forum? or does that just apply to certain people?

don't bother replying expecting a response as I'm not getting dragged into it
 
shitposts like this are exactly why I don't post here. I remember a few people from the HCEG/GJ days (ponchos, rubber asses and all), but who needs the b.s. drama from people who want to "win at the internet"...

isn't there a rule about personal attacks on this forum? or does that just apply to certain people?

don't bother replying expecting a response as I'm not getting dragged into it

Thanks for your feedback, your valuable contributions to this community have always been embraced and appreciated. Much love. Let's have coffee.
 
shitposts like this are exactly why I don't post here. I remember a few people from the HCEG/GJ days (ponchos, rubber asses and all), but who needs the b.s. drama from people who want to "win at the internet"...

isn't there a rule about personal attacks on this forum? or does that just apply to certain people?

don't bother replying expecting a response as I'm not getting dragged into it
PONCHOS! those were good days.

and fuck sauce. don't forget the fuck sauce.
 
Well thanks a lot guys, now I feel even more like shit than I did before. Between this and the Charlottesville / Politics thread, and my personal life, there isn't much to be happy about.
 
Well thanks a lot guys, now I feel even more like shit than I did before. Between this and the Charlottesville / Politics thread, and my personal life, there isn't much to be happy about.

Go have a nice meal. Go see a movie. Book a massage. Buy a hammock. Take a bubble bath. Adopt a puppy. Talk to someone. Life's not all a drag.
 
You have the love, admiration, and respect of a group of reprobates, so there's that, too...

Speak for yourself. That Smurfco guy is the worst. He eats beans. His house smells like synthetic watermelon flavored candy. His dog is bad at algebra. There are retail internet bots with livelier personalities. He is best friends with a Honda Civic.
 
Speak for yourself. That Smurfco guy is the worst. He eats beans. His house smells like synthetic watermelon flavored candy. His dog is bad at algebra. There are retail internet bots with livelier personalities. He is best friends with a Honda Civic.

That's totally unfair and untrue.

It's a Toyota Corolla.
 
Well shit. As the person whose name is at the top of the page I guess I guess I'll weigh in on this.

@Flamencology gets a warning about personal attacks. @Elias Graves I could care less about at this point. You started what would have been a nice thread with a political comment and got shit on by about half the posters. If the quote in Flamencology's post is actually your own words then I'd rather you not participate in this forum anyway.


Nothing I say or do will make everyone happy so I'm not going to try to make anyone happy. This is a free forum for the participants, it was part of the marketing for my business and I held certain standards because of that. The business part is not as much of an issue anymore but I don't want it turning into another online shithole. Please keep the political stuff in the political thread. This thread is making things worse at this point and I might just shut it down. The Charlottesville thread is an obvious exception to the politics rule but it has been civil and honestly I wouldn't want anyone here who got angry trying to defend white supremacists. I think it gives the forum a place to discuss the issue without people who don't want to participate in the left-leaning political thread having to deal with the bias.

Folks can bitch all they want if they feel like I don't enforce the TOS as strictly as they'd like but this has been a small yet relatively thriving online community for almost a decade of people who visit each other when they travel, has annual get togethers that are open to anyone who wants to attend at forumites personal houses and always is supportive when a member (or a friend or family member) is in need. At the core this is a great group of people who behave well the majority of the time. I am too busy and just don't care enough to police every perceived injustice. These are stressful times for us all regardless of political, social, sexual or any other orientation you might have and folks are going to get a little heated. Just like most families. And hopefully like most families shit either gets worked out on some level or you learn to not interact with certain people and get over it all.

So there you have it. I'm a failure as a forum administrator to a portion of you and that's OK with me at this point. No one is making you post here at gunpoint. You guys are supposed to be adults so try and act like it.
 
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