Trade opinion needed

Aahzz

Aahzz

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OK, I'm pretty positive I should, but just want to make sure...

As you may have read in the amps forum, I got a Fender Cyber-Twin SE in trade for my Schecter. My goal is a Les Paul, and the Cyber sells used in about the Studio price range...but not many have been interested in trading for it in the short time I've had it.

I posted it on Craigslist, and got offered an all-original 1983 Flying V with factory Kahler. Seems to me that that would be awfully easy to trade for a Lester - probably higher than a Studio, even. What do you think?
 
Im no expert, I'd be real curious to hear what Mark and Howie have to say, but I am thinking that Kahler (even though I like the Kahler trems) will decrease the value on it.
 
Aahzz said:
OK, I'm pretty positive I should, but just want to make sure...

As you may have read in the amps forum, I got a Fender Cyber-Twin SE in trade for my Schecter. My goal is a Les Paul, and the Cyber sells used in about the Studio price range...but not many have been interested in trading for it in the short time I've had it.

I posted it on Craigslist, and got offered an all-original 1983 Flying V with factory Kahler. Seems to me that that would be awfully easy to trade for a Lester - probably higher than a Studio, even. What do you think?
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I could be wrong but the Cyber-twin hasn't proven to be the most desirable amp in Fender's line. I'm deeply immersed in the community and I've never seen nor heard of anyone using them live or in the studio.

If I'm right about that, you'll have to stick it out until "that right guy" comes along.

Also, the 80's V's and Explorers don't seem to move very well of late.
 
derivicus said:
I could be wrong but the Cyber-twin hasn't proven to be the most desirable amp in Fender's line. I'm deeply immersed in the community and I've never seen nor heard of anyone using them live or in the studio.

If I'm right about that, you'll have to stick it out until "that right guy" comes along.

Also, the 80's V's and Explorers don't seem to move very well of late.
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The Cyber-Twin's desirability (or lack thereof) is why I'm considering the V...and nothing seems to be moving well of late.
 
Chihlidog said:
After checking ebay, Im more confident in saying that actually.
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I couldn't find enough of a comparison on Ebay for this one....I found an 84, which has the 6-on-a-side headstock, but this one has the traditional V headstock, albeit with a locking nut. I was wondering about the Kahler's effect on value...I figured the "factory" part is at least considerably better than aftermarket...
 
make the trade if the guitar is in mint condition. if its roached out, you won't get much of a flip.

anything with a Kahler got a bad rep in the last 20 years as parts became scarce. Kahler is back and making all of their original designs including replacement parts. so while it doesn't have quite the collectibility factor that a stoptail version would, at least you can fix it if something goes wrong.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
make the trade if the guitar is in mint condition. if its roached out, you won't get much of a flip.

anything with a Kahler got a bad rep in the last 20 years as parts became scarce. Kahler is back and making all of their original designs including replacement parts. so while it doesn't have quite the collectibility factor that a stoptail version would, at least you can fix it if something goes wrong.
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It's not mint, but it's not beat to snot, either...
 
The Kahler decreses the value bu if the guitar is in good shape I would think that it would be a better trade.

You can tell that I hate the Cyber twiin, huh? :embarrassed:
 
Phil513 said:
Whats wrong with them? They are expensive, arent they?
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Expensive does not always mean "good" for guitar amps. Especially with newer technology.

I have never gotten a Cybertwin to sound good in a band setting. Ask Prages how he liked his...
 
markwein said:
Expensive does not always mean "good" for guitar amps. Especially with newer technology.

I have never gotten a Cybertwin to sound good in a band setting. Ask Prages how he liked his...
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Wow. And Musicians friend touts it as "Fenders Best Amp" lol.
 
He's now adding $150 in cash, so I think I'm a'gonna do it - the V plus $150 ought to at least translate into a Studio....
 
Adding the cash should make it about right.

I agree that the Kahler monkeys with the deal.... but you might be able to fit a skyline (?) trem in place of the Kahler... THOSE ARE SWEET! :thu:

EDIT: I thought they were called Skyline.... they're a top mount trem like a kahler, but they use this really cool hidden pivot... and can smoothly go up and down in pitch but won't bounce when you do double stops. I'll keep looking for what it's called.
 
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I don't know Big-A, I think purely on taste, I'd take the V. If you're only looking for alternative angles, I can contribute my personal opinion. Because by no means am I an authoritative source.


Of course it's subjective.

To me, the thing about amps is that I'd expect based on what I know about electronics, that they're all relatively within closer tolerances than guitars are. from unit to unit. I would think value-wise you're likely to get a diamond in the rough with a Guitar, than ya would with an Amp. I mean, the difference between an "Excellent" Fender Dual verb and a "good" one is usually cosmetic as far as price is concerned. So depending on how it plays, it may even be a keeper.


So, all things being equal, if the amp is shit in your ear, and the guitar is sex, Market value aside, I'd follow my ear. I don't think either of them will be collector's items in a generation (12-30 yrs.) but they'll both be worth the same in 4 or 5 decades.

There's still something about a Gibson V that I really dig. My best buddy in high school, Adam, was a phenomenal musician. Dual threat piano and guitar. And he had this sweet Korina V that was all pimped out in a plush pink case.


Guess the pop factor is just greater in the guitar.

FWIW
 
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