Trade decisions...

The only time something is below MAP is when it says 'Call for Price'.

I've got a bunch of old MF catalogs from the mid 90s and most of the stuff in there is 'Call for Price'.

It's a little troublesome to see a Les Paul Standard with a BIRDSEYE top and a list price of $1,700.
 
The only time something is below MAP is when it says 'Call for Price'.

I've got a bunch of old MF catalogs from the mid 90s and most of the stuff in there is 'Call for Price'.

It's a little troublesome to see a Les Paul Standard with a BIRDSEYE top and a list price of $1,700.

depends. Rickenbacker still doesn't allow retailers to publish prices. PRS didn't for quite some time too.
 
depends. Rickenbacker still doesn't allow retailers to publish prices.

What is the logic behind this? I have always wondered. It actually sorta pisses me off when they dont show the price. Not that i could afford it anyway, but even if i could, it doesn't make me feel fondly toward a company that does that. idn_smilie
 
What is the logic behind this? I have always wondered. It actually sorta pisses me off when they dont show the price. Not that i could afford it anyway, but even if i could, it doesn't make me feel fondly toward a company that does that. idn_smilie

to use the earlier example of LP's listing for $1700, Rics at the time listed at "Call for Price". today's LP's list for $3500 (or whatever), and Rics still list at "Call for Price". so its not as trackable.

at least that's my theory.
 
to use the earlier example of LP's listing for $1700, Rics at the time listed at "Call for Price". today's LP's list for $3500 (or whatever), and Rics still list at "Call for Price". so its not as trackable.

at least that's my theory.

Ah. They can jack up the price and the public doesnt go, "what a bunch of opportunistic bastards :mad: "
 
Ah. They can jack up the price and the public doesnt go, "what a bunch of opportunistic bastards :mad: "

yep. it also helps them keep the sales numbers where they want them. in the case of Ric, they're a small company. they can't pump out 1000 guitars a week. people are less inclined to call for price and would rather order something else that doesn't take as much effort.
 
yep. it also helps them keep the sales numbers where they want them. in the case of Ric, they're a small company. they can't pump out 1000 guitars a week. people are less inclined to call for price and would rather order something else that doesn't take as much effort.

Last I checked the wait time on a Ric was in excess of 6 months....
 
Yeah, the price plus the wait? I mean, they are kinda cool, but not THAT cool.

prices were raised 40% last year to slow orders and cut down that waiting list. keep in mind, the waiting list is for new dealer orders and special orders. so if you just want a fireglo Ric 330, there are plenty available.

that said, i got my blueburst 330 for $1350 a few years ago. which was about $250 more than the regular color ones were going for at the time. the other guitar i was considering was the Fender '52 Telecaster which was the same price. the Ric is a better guitar in every way. are they worth the $2k they're going for now? i dunno. is a Gibson LP worth that much? i dunno either.
 
prices were raised 40% last year to slow orders and cut down that waiting list. keep in mind, the waiting list is for new dealer orders and special orders. so if you just want a fireglo Ric 330, there are plenty available.

that said, i got my blueburst 330 for $1350 a few years ago. which was about $250 more than the regular color ones were going for at the time. the other guitar i was considering was the Fender '52 Telecaster which was the same price. the Ric is a better guitar in every way. are they worth the $2k they're going for now? i dunno. is a Gibson LP worth that much? i dunno either.

Truth is, im not a good enough guitar player to deserve stepping up. When my poor little collection of squiers and such is limiting me, then i'll move up. I feel i need to earn it. I see so many older guys with more money than drive to put the time in practicing buy themselves expensive 335s and such and then fumble around on it week after week.

I'll buy a nice guitar when i have earned the right to one.
 
But that's not the American way! What are you, a terrurrist? :mad:

There is just something kinda sad about a older guy (like me)that tries to buy his way into cool. I'm sure as a guitar teacher you know just what im talking about. biggrin
 
I'll buy a nice guitar when i have earned the right to one.

I never had that attitude. I always figured that if I wanted a nice guitar and I could afford the guitar, then I should get the guitar.

That said, I got my first truely nice guitar when I was 18, but I'd already been playing for about 10 years by then. Actually, that's a lie. I did take 3 years or so off from age 11 to 14.

Still, my parents wanted to get me something nice for high school graduation. I wanted a Les Paul more than anything in the world. After playing a bunch, I ended up with a PRS CE24. :embarrassed:
 
I never had that attitude. I always figured that if I wanted a nice guitar and I could afford the guitar, then I should get the guitar.

That said, I got my first truely nice guitar when I was 18, but I'd already been playing for about 10 years by then. Actually, that's a lie. I did take 3 years or so off from age 11 to 14.

Still, my parents wanted to get me something nice for high school graduation. I wanted a Les Paul more than anything in the world. After playing a bunch, I ended up with a PRS CE24. :embarrassed:

I'll reward myself someday. Right now i need to work at it more.
 
I'll reward myself someday. Right now i need to work at it more.

conversely, i totally understand where you're coming from. i try to play all of my guitars. but when i practice, its either on my Ibanez or Danelectro. they're the two guitars i learned everything else on.
 
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