The home made choucroute thread

Wilmer X

SG-smasher
Every time I pass through Alsace I eat their version of sauerkraut; choucroute. It´s fresher and chrunchier than the German one. They boil it in Riesling. With sausages and ham and strong French mustard it´s very nice to eat, with some glass of well chilled Riesling wine.

It´s interesting that choucroute/saurkraut has it´s origin in Eastern Asia, and arrived to Europe first with Attila and his Huns. A second time it came with Djingis Khan and his Mongoles. It´s still a national dish in Korea and Northern China, and is also used for the US Reuben sandwich. The fermented cabbage is often said to be very healthy, and good for the metabolism, but it´s not so easy to find where I live - at least not in ordinary grocery stores.

So, now when it´s Spring time, I decided to make my own choucroute. It´s not difficult. One need some cabbage and salt, a large can of some sort, and a plate to press down the cabbage so it´s always covered with water. I cleaned everything carefully before I started to cut down the cabbage in small slices. Then I packed it in the can in many layers. Every layer should be salted and then sligtly beaten and pressed down with the fist. After some layers one start to hear a watery "splash" from the cabbage when it´s pressed down with the fist. The treatment and the salt makes the water come out of the cabbage. It should be salty; one needs some 20 gram salt for every kilo of cabbage, so it´s quite much, but not oversalted. When the can is almost full, a big plate should be pressed down over the cabbage, and then the water from it will cover the cabbage. The fermentation should be made under the cover of water; no oxygen. The salt makes it difficult for ordinary bacterias to attack the cabbage. Instead a fermentation starts if the can is put in a slightly warm environment. The fermentation can be helped with two spoons of sour milk, but it´s not absolutely necessary.

Ok, it took me some hours to fix after breakfast. Wife and kids were quite interested and was studying the process on a distance. When I said that a fermentation should start tomorrow morning they looked worried, and wifey asked if it was necessary to have the can in the kitchen. I said that it should be no serious smell from it, and that I had to have it in the kitchen because it´s the warmest place in the house - and that I should move it as soon the fermentation had started. She said OK but looked suspicious, to say the least. I will report on the further development. It will take some three weeks before it´s ready to boil and eat. Perhaps it´s necessary to find something that makes wifey in a better mode. Perhaps some sort of party with the choucroute as a theme?
 
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Mmmm.... choucroute! I first had it in Alsace also. It's a wonderful dish that goes very well with a nice Riesling or Gewurztraminer. Wonderful, wonderful stuff.

There are plenty of Polish delis in Chicago so I can always get really good smoked sausages. I often add smoked ribs to my choucroute. Really, just about any combination of smoked meats will do nicely. If I'm feeling adventurous, I might add blood sausage.

This is the recipe that I use as a base. I alter it as I need to. It's a great way to get rid of old white wine. Chardonay, pinot blanc, or just about anything will work to cook it in.

Hmmm.... I may have to throw a dinner party just to give me an excuse to make choucroute!
 
It´s very nice to hear a young lady speak about choucroute. My wife is not exactly happy about my preparations for the moment. A dinner party? Yes, that´s a good idea. I will see what I can figure out.
 
I grew up as the child of German immigrants. Sauerkraut and sausage was standard fare in our household. But the Alsatian method of making choucroute is fabulous. It usually takes me about a day to prepare it all. But the payoff is soooooo good. I can't have it often though. It's a very rich dish.
 
Very rich, yes.....

To be honest; all women I know who likes choucroute are somewhat...well...have some roundness, so to say. Guess that is not because of the choucroute by itself but because the huge portions they often serve at restaurants in Alsace.
 
Wilmer X, formerly known as WilmerTheWhite... I honestly can't relate to your choucroute, that's totally European for my Canadian, Niagara Peninsula lifestyle. We're more known for burying a pumpkin full of water, with some spices and a little Jimi sweat-stain, and then letting it ferment for a month or so, making a nice organic beer that lets you see musical colours.

And the ladies who chase the men who know where to dig the pumpkins up are usually nervously thin and in extreme physical endurance.
It takes a lot of strength to suck a couple of pumpkins dry.
While not as glorious a recipe as your choucroute, at least it doesn't require any fisting.

as always, John Watt
 
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Very rich, yes.....

To be honest; all women I know who likes choucroute are somewhat...well...have some roundness, so to say. Guess that is not because of the choucroute by itself but because the huge portions they often serve at restaurants in Alsace.
That's exactly why I don't make it more than once or twice a year.
 
...the smell of sourkraut used to make me nauseous...but I think I could eat it now...curious...how tastes change over time...


...as always...
 
...the smell of sourkraut used to make me nauseous...but I think I could eat it now...curious...how tastes change over time...


...as always...
I used to be the same way. But this is different. Most of the cooking of the kraut is done in the oven. I use a heavy Dutch oven when I make this. The wine and smoked meat smells take the edge off of the kraut smells. Also, the juniper berries are not optional. They are essential to the flavor.
 
It´s true that juniper berries are essential for choucroute, though I mostly use bay leaf myself. :embarrassed:

And thanks John Watt for your recipe on that organic pumpkin beer!!! Will try that for Midsummer; that´s the season for mating and sexual reproduction in Sweden.

Over here things are really developing. Something is bubbling in the choucroute can I have in the kitchen. It nice to see and it´s promising. To be honest: it fills my heart with joy. I´m a modest man. :embarrassed:

The problem is me wife. She wants the can out of the house. But some hours ago I had a serious talk with her, cause when I came from work she said that the "whole house was smelling" from my latest project.

Now look carefully at the conversation we had:

I sat down and said:

"You should not always look at the difficult and annoying part in life. There is always another and brighter side of it, there can always be a fun win factor in it."

She looked very puzzled and asked:

"What can be the `win´ factor of this stupid experiment? Hm?"

I said:

"When the choucroute is ready, we can have a party with Alsace wines, choucroute, ham and sausages, strong Dijon mustard. How many of our friends have had a true Alsace party, with choucroute...I mean: HOME MADE choucroute?"

She said:

"What´s the fun with that?"

And I said:

"Look! We can invite our friends. I fix the choucroute, the ham and the sausages. We have a fun `ethnic´ party and...just have some fun...party?"

She now started to think and said:

"Do you mean a `German´party, with people dressed in German folklore dresses, and horn music. We have some Jewish friends: do you believe they can come too?"

I said:

"Now look: it´s not a German saurkraut party. It´s a French CHOUCROUTE party! We can even drink the wines we have from Dopff-Irion, like Les Maquisards - the Partisans - named so because the people at the firm were members if the Resistance in Alsace during the whole Second World War!"

Here the telephone rang; it was a friend to my wife, so she had to talk with her.
I listened however to their conversation. I heard that my wife invited her to a party. With a "very strange theme", she said. It should be a choucroute party, with a lot of Alsace wine. It was an idea she had, because Wilmer, you know, had one of his strange projects again, and was doing his own sauerkraut in the bath tub. (Are you serious??) Yes, it´s true, but it can be a fun thing, or...?

Obviously it was, the discussion went on for a long time. If I understand it right, there will be a huge choucroute party within 3 weeks.

Cool? :embarrassed:
 
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Wilmer X, formerly known as WilmerTheWhite... I honestly can't relate to your choucroute, that's totally European for my Canadian, Niagara Peninsula lifestyle. We're more known for burying a pumpkin full of water, with some spices and a little Jimi sweat-stain, and then letting it ferment for a month or so, making a nice organic beer that lets you see musical colours.

And the ladies who chase the men who know where to dig the pumpkins up are usually nervously thin and in extreme physical endurance.
It takes a lot of strength to suck a couple of pumpkins dry.
While not as glorious a recipe as your choucroute, at least it doesn't require any fisting.

as always, John Watt

Man. Some day I'd like to visit whatever planet JW is from. :embarrassed:
 
News in! Wifey now has invited her female friends at work to come over to LOOK at the bubbles in the choucroute can in the kitchen. I´m supposed to give a short lecture on the subject. :confused:
 
The question is: will it be cool to dress up in lederhosen when the ladies come over at Friday evening. Or better to save them to the choucroute party? Yes? No? :confused:

I use to make a dance in lederhosen. Here´s a take from last year:



Too much fun too soon? :embarrassed:
 
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The question is: will it be cool to dress up in lederhosen when the ladies come over at Friday evening. Or better to save them to the choucroute party? Yes? No? :confused:

I use to make a dance in lederhosen. Here´s a take from last year:



Too much fun too soon? :embarrassed:

Your Lederhosen Dance Display should obviously be after serving the choucroute. Ladies prefer a gentle build up to these things. Such a climactic event would be cheapened by a 'sneak preview'. It will diminish the awe that you would otherwise command.
 
The question is: will it be cool to dress up in lederhosen when the ladies come over at Friday evening. Or better to save them to the choucroute party? Yes? No? :confused:

I use to make a dance in lederhosen. Here´s a take from last year:






Too much fun too soon? :embarrassed:


I LOL'd! So did my daughter! I agree, you should build up to that gradually...
 
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Gotta love the Lederhosen Dance! Fun stuff.

You can dress in Lederhosen but then the women have to dress in Dirndl dresses.
 
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This is the recipe that I use as a base. I alter it as I need to. It's a great way to get rid of old white wine. Chardonay, pinot blanc, or just about anything will work to cook it in.

I've never heard of the stuff - but that recipe looks mighty tasty - AND we have the prerequisite ham bones in the freezer at home. I may have to make this soon before the weather warms up much more. Definitely a cool weather dish.
 
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