Question: PRS hate, Why?

One of the two nicest guitars I have ever played was a PRS Custom 22 in purple with moons and a trem.

It was too expensive for me at the time, but man, that thing was "buttah".

I think the stigma attached to them is that because they are so expensive, they somehow don't translate to the "common man".

While I agree they probably don't fit the "starving artist" image, there's no denying they are a quality instrument.
 
I think a lot of it is similar to the gibson and fender hate. The internet is full of trolls, morons, losers posting from the halfway house computer room, kids, and the like. Imagine the stupidest person you ever talked to about gear (or even about anything), give them an anonymous user name, spell check, and a screen to hide behind and they become the world's expert on gear. Most of these mouth breathing simpletons and kids (although the groups are not mutually exclusive) can't afford to drop 3 grand on a PRS, Gibson, or Fender CS guitar, so they defend their inability to do so by pointing out that their sx piece of crap guitar is every bit as good as a real PRS for 1/1000th the price. I've got nothing against cheap guitars, mind you, but the 'just as good as' argument is horse shit, and I think most people here realize that. The cheap guitar might be a good instrument, and a heck of a bargain, fun to play, pretty to look at, but it isn't the same caliber as the real thing. These things degenerate into accepted fact at places like HC EG.

I think this is one of the reasons I like this place so much. You can trust the people's opinions here. If Mark, Andy, Howie or the rest of you tell me that brand XXX model is a piece of crap or sounds like shit, I can believe it. If Mark says the CV teles are pretty awesome, I believe him.
 
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I understand that people might not be into a certain guitar or brand but ill never understand the extremely negative attitudes that some people display toward an inanimate object that they are under no obligation to play or own.
 
Tiltsta said:
I think a lot of it is similar to the gibson and fender hate. The internet is full of trolls, morons, losers posting from the halfway house computer room, kids, and the like. Imagine the stupidest person you ever talked to about gear, give them an anonymous user name, spell check, and a screen to hide behind and they become the world's expert on gear. Most of these mouth breathing simpletons and kids (although the groups are not mutually exclusive) can't afford to drop 3 grand on a PRS, Gibson, or Fender CS guitar, so they defend their inability to do so by pointing out that their sx piece of crap guitar is every bit as good as a real PRS for 1/1000th the price. I've got nothing against cheap guitars, mind you, but the 'just as good as' argument is horse shit, and I think most people here realize that. The cheap guitar might be a good instrument, and a heck of a bargain, fun to play, pretty to look at, but it isn't the same caliber as the real thing.
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Amen, brother!
 
k4df4l said:
I understand that people might not be into a certain guitar or brand but ill never understand the extremely negative attitudes that some people display toward an inanimate object that they are under no obligation to play or own.
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So true.
 
Tiltsta said:
I think a lot of it is similar to the gibson and fender hate. The internet is full of trolls, morons, losers posting from the halfway house computer room, kids, and the like. Imagine the stupidest person you ever talked to about gear (or even about anything), give them an anonymous user name, spell check, and a screen to hide behind and they become the world's expert on gear. Most of these mouth breathing simpletons and kids (although the groups are not mutually exclusive) can't afford to drop 3 grand on a PRS, Gibson, or Fender CS guitar, so they defend their inability to do so by pointing out that their sx piece of crap guitar is every bit as good as a real PRS for 1/1000th the price. I've got nothing against cheap guitars, mind you, but the 'just as good as' argument is horse shit, and I think most people here realize that. The cheap guitar might be a good instrument, and a heck of a bargain, fun to play, pretty to look at, but it isn't the same caliber as the real thing. These things degenerate into accepted fact at places like HC EG.

I think this is one of the reasons I like this place so much. You can trust the people's opinions here. If Mark, Andy, Howie or the rest of you tell me that brand XXX model is a piece of crap or sounds like shit, I can believe it. If Mark says the CV teles are pretty awesome, I believe him.
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Sweet... I made a good list for once! :grin:

I would like to say thought, regarding the "as good as" instruments that I've found a lot of the Agiles to be on par with the upper end Epiphones and sometimes much better than some of the actual Faded Series Gibsons. Saying that the $300 AL-XXXX is as good as a Les Paul Custom... generally doesn't hold up the same.

I also really like SX, but that's because I love those chunky necks. I used to be able to recommend Xaviere for entry-level instruments, but my last experience was so bad that I just can't. A shame because they have some items I'd still like to give a shot.
 
I don't "hate". I just don't "like" them so much. I am not drawn to them visually mostly. As for the birds, they are just not my thing visually either. They remind me of "Jonathan Livingston Seagull". And the shape of the bodies and headstocks are not to my taste generally. There is no "why". Purely a subjective, visual thing.
 
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rusholmeruffian said:
I think the remark "That's a nice guitar you've got attached to that piece of flame maple" sums up most of the distaste for PRS. The fact that the company builds so many Liberace-tacky "collector's edition" guitars rubs a lot of people the wrong way, as well.

I would take a more aesthetically restrained PRS in a heartbeat, though. Maybe a semi-hollow with Narrowfields.
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I think this sums it up well.

EG
 
Tiltsta said:
I think a lot of it is similar to the gibson and fender hate. The internet is full of trolls, morons, losers posting from the halfway house computer room, kids, and the like. Imagine the stupidest person you ever talked to about gear (or even about anything), give them an anonymous user name, spell check, and a screen to hide behind and they become the world's expert on gear. Most of these mouth breathing simpletons and kids (although the groups are not mutually exclusive) can't afford to drop 3 grand on a PRS, Gibson, or Fender CS guitar, so they defend their inability to do so by pointing out that their sx piece of crap guitar is every bit as good as a real PRS for 1/1000th the price. I've got nothing against cheap guitars, mind you, but the 'just as good as' argument is horse shit, and I think most people here realize that. The cheap guitar might be a good instrument, and a heck of a bargain, fun to play, pretty to look at, but it isn't the same caliber as the real thing. These things degenerate into accepted fact at places like HC EG.

I think this is one of the reasons I like this place so much. You can trust the people's opinions here. If Mark, Andy, Howie or the rest of you tell me that brand XXX model is a piece of crap or sounds like shit, I can believe it. If Mark says the CV teles are pretty awesome, I believe him.
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Well said.

EG
 
Tiltsta said:
I think a lot of it is similar to the gibson and fender hate. The internet is full of trolls, morons, losers posting from the halfway house computer room, kids, and the like. Imagine the stupidest person you ever talked to about gear (or even about anything), give them an anonymous user name, spell check, and a screen to hide behind and they become the world's expert on gear. Most of these mouth breathing simpletons and kids (although the groups are not mutually exclusive) can't afford to drop 3 grand on a PRS, Gibson, or Fender CS guitar, so they defend their inability to do so by pointing out that their sx piece of crap guitar is every bit as good as a real PRS for 1/1000th the price. I've got nothing against cheap guitars, mind you, but the 'just as good as' argument is horse shit, and I think most people here realize that. The cheap guitar might be a good instrument, and a heck of a bargain, fun to play, pretty to look at, but it isn't the same caliber as the real thing. These things degenerate into accepted fact at places like HC EG.

I think this is one of the reasons I like this place so much. You can trust the people's opinions here. If Mark, Andy, Howie or the rest of you tell me that brand XXX model is a piece of crap or sounds like shit, I can believe it. If Mark says the CV teles are pretty awesome, I believe him.
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You realize that calling SXs crap are fighting words to people on HCEG like Scuzzo? :grin:

Nonetheless +1 from me too.

Personally I don't get the negative attitude people have about PRS. I just don't like them, because I don't like their playing feel, and find some of them to sound blah. But those are personal taste related things. In general, PRS are very well made guitars. Crap, they aren't.
 
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Tiltsta said:
I think a lot of it is similar to the gibson and fender hate. The internet is full of trolls, morons, losers posting from the halfway house computer room, kids, and the like. Imagine the stupidest person you ever talked to about gear (or even about anything), give them an anonymous user name, spell check, and a screen to hide behind and they become the world's expert on gear. Most of these mouth breathing simpletons and kids (although the groups are not mutually exclusive) can't afford to drop 3 grand on a PRS, Gibson, or Fender CS guitar, so they defend their inability to do so by pointing out that their sx piece of crap guitar is every bit as good as a real PRS for 1/1000th the price. I've got nothing against cheap guitars, mind you, but the 'just as good as' argument is horse shit, and I think most people here realize that. The cheap guitar might be a good instrument, and a heck of a bargain, fun to play, pretty to look at, but it isn't the same caliber as the real thing. These things degenerate into accepted fact at places like HC EG.

I think this is one of the reasons I like this place so much. You can trust the people's opinions here. If Mark, Andy, Howie or the rest of you tell me that brand XXX model is a piece of crap or sounds like shit, I can believe it. If Mark says the CV teles are pretty awesome, I believe him.
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Sums it up pretty well for me!
 
...for me, its complicated. Firstly, Ive never played a PRS that felt right. They always feel like they are trying to be something else. Secondly, A lot of people who play PRS have an attitude about it. Its almost a reverse cork-sniff type of situation. Thirdly, most PRS guitars give me the impression that your paying more for the flame/paint/hardware that for the actual guitar. Its like when you see used cars for sale that have been all tricked out with flashy rims, and sound systems, and all that...underneath, its still a second hand Buick...

...also, I dont enjoy an music made by PRS players...expect Alex Lifeson...
 
Tiltsta said:
I think this is one of the reasons I like this place so much. You can trust the people's opinions here. If Mark, Andy, Howie or the rest of you tell me that brand XXX model is a piece of crap or sounds like shit, I can believe it. If Mark says the CV teles are pretty awesome, I believe him.
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I'll respect their opinion but I won't base any decisions on a certain make or model unless I have the ability to try them out myself. I play guitars that some on here have strong opinions about but I really don't care. I like those guitars and in the end that's all that matters.
 
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dunno about all else that's been mentioned, but I've tried a pile of 'em, and have never been impressed.
too much cash for too little guitar, IMO.
I'm sure there are exceptions, of course, but I've never played one.
 
I was reminded tonight of just how much I do like the Mira, though. Haven't had the opportunity to play one just yet, but I love the way those things look.
 
I don't hate them, they just don't play the way I want a guitar. Hence the neck and feel is not comfortable for me. I played two PRS's in my life not including the walwarts in the store just to try them out. One belong to our 2nd guitar player in my old Heart Tribute. I didn't care for the V type neck, the sound was muddy and the fretboard wasn't my style. The second one belong to a rep for the medical company I work for. Same deal - two or three different amps and the sound was muddy and the feel was meh. Granted the dollar factor maybe part of it but I never had the desire for that style of guitar. In fact when I searched for Les Paul's, I had too try alot of them. Like the PRS, the feel and playability was meh including the sound. All the years that I have played I found 5-Les Paul's that I like the way they play. I own two of them, my friend Don owns one, Mark owns one and the son of comrade in Cleveland, Ohio owned a '68 Gold Top.

I don't know, maybe certain guitars talk to me but the PRS's I have tried don't work. I picked up a Luke model in GC a couple of years ago and the guitar played the way I wanted it too - how's that?
 
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