Poop Knife!

Lols.

I made a pretty harsh joke about Bigsby to my friend the other day while passing by their booth at NAMM at what I thought was a safe distance... It wasn't. :)

I got an epic stinkeye from one of their Honchos.

I also tweaked the butthurt knobs on Mr. Kiesel by asking if it was too late to route my incoming custom guitar for a Kahler instead of a Floyd after visiting the Kahler booth and falling in love with their latest wares that DON'T require cutting the ball ends off the strings.

Apparently, there's some unfortunate history there I was unaware of. :)
 
OGG said:
Lols.

I made a pretty harsh joke about Bigsby to my friend the other day while passing by their booth at NAMM at what I thought was a safe distance... It wasn't. :)

I got an epic stinkeye from one of their Honchos.

I also tweaked the butthurt knobs on Mr. Kiesel by asking if it was too late to route my incoming custom guitar for a Kahler instead of a Floyd after visiting the Kahler booth and falling in love with their latest wares that DON'T require cutting the ball ends off the strings.

Apparently, there's some unfortunate history there I was unaware of. :)
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Kahlers are awesome.
 
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They're based out of Vegas now. I've actually dealt with them quite a bit because aside from building Kahler Trem Systems, they have a side business making high quality, custom machined replacement parts for the 80s MIJ Fender System One Trem that are otherwise like Unicorns wearing a Hen's teeth necklace while riding a Pegusus. One of their main guys is almost as nutty about the System One (originally manufactured by Schaller and branded "Fender") as I am (last count I have 13 such equipped guitars), and saw the need to make the stuff like fine tuners, saddle position screws, Trem arms etc available to people that want to keep their guitars going strong when those parts wear out or get lost. The stuff ain't cheap by any stretch, but they've saved my bacon many times over now.

Anyway, a few of their newer units can drop into certain Floyd Rose routes, others will replace old school Kahlers without mods, and the rest require their own route for with they supply all the needed templates etc.
 
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Grant Harding said:
Kahlers are awesome.
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OGG said:
They're based out of Vegas now. I've actually dealt with them quite a bit because aside from building Kahler Trem Systems, they have a side business making high quality, custom machined replacement parts for the 80s MIJ Fender System One Trem that are otherwise like Unicorns wearing a Hen's teeth necklace while riding a Pegusus. One of their main guys is almost as nutty about the System One (originally manufactured by Schaller and branded "Fender") as I am (last count I have 13 such equipped guitars), and saw the need to make the stuff like fine tuners, saddle position screws, Trem arms etc available to people that want to keep their guitars going strong when those parts wear out or get lost. The stuff ain't cheap by any stretch, but they've saved my bacon many times over now.

Anyway, a few of their newer units can drop into certain Floyd Rose routes, others will replace old school Kahlers without mods, and the rest require their own route for with they supply all the needed templates etc.
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I installed one in a customers guitar last year. As an engineer I was totally impressed by the design - the roller saddles are adjustable in every direction (including string spacing), you can adjust the tension with one screw (not a No 10 wood screw) from the top of the unit, you can lock and unlock it with one set screw, fine tuners actually work

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Simple matter to make a jig from dimensions on their web site

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I questioned one dimension on their drawing so I gave them a call - think I ended up speaking with Mr Kahler himself. He explained the dimension (I still question it) and we had a nice half hour geekie sort of guitar guy talk.

And I guess I still don't understand what you guys don't like about Bigsby's. I install them for a couple of my jazz playing friends, they pay a lot of good money for them and seem to make pretty good use of them

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Freeman Keller said:
Obviously I have a lot to learn

And I guess I still don't understand what you guys don't like about Bigsby's. I install them for a couple of my jazz playing friends, they pay a lot of good money for them and seem to make pretty good use of them
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That's some nice work there. :thu:

The poop knife thing started here:
http://markweinguitarlessons.com/forums/threads/poop-knife.86938/

Really, don't click the thread. Or, click the thread, but don't click the link within. You're just better off.

Then @Aahzz referred to a Bigsby as a poop knife and it took off. So here we are. I like Bigsbys.

:grin:
 
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They're based out of Vegas now. I've actually dealt with them quite a bit because aside from building Kahler Trem Systems, they have a side business making high quality, custom machined replacement parts for the 80s MIJ Fender System One Trem that are otherwise like Unicorns wearing a Hen's teeth necklace while riding a Pegusus. One of their main guys is almost as nutty about the System One (originally manufactured by Schaller and branded "Fender") as I am (last count I have 13 such equipped guitars), and saw the need to make the stuff like fine tuners, saddle position screws, Trem arms etc available to people that want to keep their guitars going strong when those parts wear out or get lost. The stuff ain't cheap by any stretch, but they've saved my bacon many times over now.

Anyway, a few of their newer units can drop into certain Floyd Rose routes, others will replace old school Kahlers without mods, and the rest require their own route for with they supply all the needed templates etc.
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I had one back in about 2001-2002 that I just couldn't figure out the trem on. I wish I had known about HC back then, because otherwise it was a GREAT guitar. I ended up trading it for an even crazier one, which was an early-90s Epiphone with a strange Steinberger locking trem?! I don't remember what happened to the body and the neck, but I still have the trem system in a box in the basement.
 
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Freeman Keller said:
And I guess I still don't understand what you guys don't like about Bigsby's. I install them for a couple of my jazz playing friends, they pay a lot of good money for them and seem to make pretty good use of them
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I don't like the aesthetics of the Bigsby, and have never used a tremolo bar in my life. Therefore I would not buy a guitar that had a Bigsby. My personal aesthetics are mine, however, and I don't judge those who like them, and I am sure I have heard them used well.
 
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If you install the strings with the ball end at the headstock side then you don't have to cut them off.


Please tell
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What ever that history is, I haven't been made privy to it beyond a certain acknowledgement that there indeed is an interesting story there.

I'm sure it has everything to do with the stupid Kiesel brother that ran the Carvin name out of business and not the smart Kiesel brother that took the guitar Division and made it a separate, profitable company.
 
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What ever that history is, I haven't been made privy to it beyond a certain acknowledgement that there indeed is an interesting story there.

I'm sure it has everything to do with the stupid Kiesel brother that ran the Carvin name out of business and not the smart Kiesel brother that took the guitar Division and made it a separate, profitable company.
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Just reminds me of this...

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