If someone says they like ranch dressing more than blue cheese dressing, I dismiss their opinions...

IamSeaDevil said:
I don't like blue cheese or ranch dressing, but I can understand how some of you might. It's tastes good to you.
But what I can't understand is how in the fuck anyone likes iceberg lettuce?
Romaine, Kale, Spinach or Swiss Chard are all superior to iceberg lettuce. Anyone who's disagrees is a Nickelback fan
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Two words: crunchy texture.
 
Theodore said:
It's not bleu, you only perceive it that way because of the sun and our atmosphere.
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Perception and reality have a complex relationship with each other. While we cannot perceive reality directly, we are still able to interact with it and learn about it.

At one level, perception is all we have. It is not possible to experience physical reality -- what is "out there" -- directly, and so we live inside the world of our perceptions. Our brain does the best job it can at keeping our perceptions consistent with physical reality based on the information it receives from the senses, but consistency is ultimately the best we can hope for.

At the same time, our perceptual system is constructed so that what we experience feels like physical reality. When people learn to draw or paint, they have to become aware of what they are actually perceiving -- color, perspective, shape -- often for the first time. The brain's translation from perception into a model of reality is so automatic that not only are we unaware it is happening, but it takes practice and training to become aware of it. This awareness includes all the errors and distortions that our perceptual processes routinely impose on our experience, for example as revealed with optical illusions.

So what is reality? And how do we know it's out there?

The answer to this lies in our ability to interact with reality.

While we are not able to perceive physical reality directly, we are able to interact with it. And that interaction allows us to conduct experiments to determine reality's true nature -- or at least to get closer and closer to its true nature.

One type of experiment is the type done by scientists, e.g. physicists, to find out what happens when the world is manipulated in a certain way. But human beings are conducting experiments all the time. Every time we act on the world -- walk outside, answer the phone, say what we really feel -- we are disrupting physical reality in some way and physical reality will change as a result. We see this change in our perceptions and can use it to infer what is going on out in the world.

So via experiments and our ability to infer causal mechanisms in the world, we are able to understand and interact with reality, even if we cannot directly perceive it.

LOL. I stole this.
 
jaxn slim said:
Perception and reality have a complex relationship with each other. While we cannot perceive reality directly, we are still able to interact with it and learn about it.

At one level, perception is all we have. It is not possible to experience physical reality -- what is "out there" -- directly, and so we live inside the world of our perceptions. Our brain does the best job it can at keeping our perceptions consistent with physical reality based on the information it receives from the senses, but consistency is ultimately the best we can hope for.

At the same time, our perceptual system is constructed so that what we experience feels like physical reality. When people learn to draw or paint, they have to become aware of what they are actually perceiving -- color, perspective, shape -- often for the first time. The brain's translation from perception into a model of reality is so automatic that not only are we unaware it is happening, but it takes practice and training to become aware of it. This awareness includes all the errors and distortions that our perceptual processes routinely impose on our experience, for example as revealed with optical illusions.

So what is reality? And how do we know it's out there?

The answer to this lies in our ability to interact with reality.

While we are not able to perceive physical reality directly, we are able to interact with it. And that interaction allows us to conduct experiments to determine reality's true nature -- or at least to get closer and closer to its true nature.

One type of experiment is the type done by scientists, e.g. physicists, to find out what happens when the world is manipulated in a certain way. But human beings are conducting experiments all the time. Every time we act on the world -- walk outside, answer the phone, say what we really feel -- we are disrupting physical reality in some way and physical reality will change as a result. We see this change in our perceptions and can use it to infer what is going on out in the world.

So via experiments and our ability to infer causal mechanisms in the world, we are able to understand and interact with reality, even if we cannot directly perceive it.

LOL. I stole this.
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You're good at MWGL. I'm pretty sure somebody would post this without irony.
 
mongooz said:
maybe on that leafy romain/field greens stuff.

but on big chunks of iceberg lettuce.....let the blue cheese flow!!!
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I like a little mix of both. Always have been a manager's special kind of guy. (see center of menu).

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