I may be out of a job soon.

Steverino

Steverino

NO VACANCY
Obama's looking to kill the Constellation program. If that happens (and it's looking more and more like that every day) Nasa won't need the calibration lab here. :(

I've been here since 1996. My dad got the funding and designed this entire complex in the 1980s. He retired in 1999. All this hard work...

:mad:::)cry:
 
That is very sad. I hope you can find re-placement. Are you a gov't employee or a contractor.
 
Mrs.P said:
That is very sad. I hope you can find re-placement. Are you a gov't employee or a contractor.
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Yes, and our contract is up for renewal at the end of this month. Suddenly out of nowhere, the existing contract has been extended. Bad news.
 
Steverino said:
If Constellation is killed, that means no manned space flight for the United States. None. And no future plans for any at all.
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No kidding?

I, for one, am not looking forward to trailing half a dozen other countries in the space race. One of the coolest things about being American was Kennedy, the late 60's and the space program.

I don't want to take your thread and turn it into partisan politics, so I'll just say that no President should want to be remembered as the guy who killed off manned space flight. I think that would be kind of a political disaster in terms of what it would do to the country's morale.
 
Yeah...

Cheese Grits said:
No kidding?

I, for one, am not looking forward to trailing half a dozen other countries in the space race. One of the coolest things about being American was Kennedy, the late 60's and the space program.

I don't want to take your thread and turn it into partisan politics, so I'll just say that no President should want to be remembered as the guy who killed off manned space flight. I think that would be kind of a political disaster in terms of what it would do to the country's morale.
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Harsh as hell. It would be the nail in his political coffin IMO.

I might not matter a whole lot but as a die hard geek whose very career in computers and technology has everything to do with america's investment in space, if that happens I can say a lot of "us" (geek types) would be very cross with him and there'd be no dessert for a week.

Too bad. We're giving away our manufacturing base and now this, we let others get ahead of us in space - bad bad news.
 
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Goldman Sachs alone could pay almost all of Nasa's annual budget ($17.318bn) just with it's pay and bonuses ($16.19bn) for last year. Seriously. :mad::facepalm:
 
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aliensporebomb said:
Harsh as hell. It would be the nail in his political coffin IMO.

I might not matter a whole lot but as a die hard geek whose very career
in computers and technology has everything to do with america's investment
in space, if that happens I can say a lot of "us" (geek types) would be very
cross with him and there'd be no dessert for a week.

Too bad. We're giving away our manufacturing base and now this, we let
others get ahead of us in space - bad bad news.
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.

*goes for another cup of coffee*
 
That's right.

Somehow this country got to be very focused on making as much money as possible
by doing as little as possible.

You don't get to be great by doing that. Sigh.

I wasn't completely being sarcastic but the whole IT infrastructure that american business relies upon
basically came out of space research.

I know there are some that believe we can do without manned space flight and it's certainly safer
to have robotic craft involved but it's not the same.
 
His proposed three year freeze on the NIH research budget will effectively decimate biomedical research as we know it. Like all politicians, he talks about the importance of research, technology and innovation, but it appears to be mostly empty rhetoric. In place of real science and tech, we will get a high speed train connecting tampa to orlando. :facepalm:

Let us hope that NASA the National Science FOundation and the National Institutes of Health don't get screwed over again this time. It will be really hard to get real, world-leading innovation out of the proposed expansion of the community college system.
 
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Tiltsta said:
His proposed three year freeze on the NIH research budget will effectively decimate biomedical research as we know it. Like all politicians, he talks about the importance of research, technology and innovation, but it appears to be mostly empty rhetoric. In place of real science and tech, we will get a high speed train connecting tampa to orlando. :facepalm:
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I actually think a regional high speed rail system connecting the major cities in the southeast would be a very good investment, but not just Tampa and Orlando. Imagine how cool it would be to live in Atlanta and, without some huge hassle, jump on a train to Nashville or Charlotte or wherever that could be there in a couple hours.

Not the same as science and research, mind you, but cool all the same.
 
Cheese Grits said:
I actually think a regional high speed rail system connecting the major cities in the southeast would be a very good investment, but not just Tampa and Orlando. Imagine how cool it would be to live in Atlanta and, without some huge hassle, jump on a train to Nashville or Charlotte or wherever that could be there in a couple hours.

Not the same as science and research, mind you, but cool all the same.
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I agree that it would be a cool thing, but the proposed cost to connect the 85 miles from Tampa to Orlando is about 1/4 of all the money spent on non-profit medical research in the US. 85 miles. I live in Florida, you can drive it in an hour and twenty minutes. There is no traffic, no congestion, and no reason to have a train connecting them. I can see connecting NY to Chicago and the like, but this looks and feels like the existing largely unused Florida tri-rail system.
 
Cheese Grits said:
I actually think a regional high speed rail system connecting the major cities in the southeast would be a very good investment, but not just Tampa and Orlando. Imagine how cool it would be to live in Atlanta and, without some huge hassle, jump on a train to Nashville or Charlotte or wherever that could be there in a couple hours.

Not the same as science and research, mind you, but cool all the same.
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Not to rub salt in anyone's wounds, but apparently the money has been released or partially released on the light rail system that is designed to connect Cincinnati, Columbus, and Cleveland. I think it's a brilliant idea, but a lot of people are upset. :confused:


Yeah, yeah, they're still stuck in Ohio. :embarrassed:
 
Cheese Grits said:
I actually think a regional high speed rail system connecting the major cities in the southeast would be a very good investment, but not just Tampa and Orlando. Imagine how cool it would be to live in Atlanta and, without some huge hassle, jump on a train to Nashville or Charlotte or wherever that could be there in a couple hours.

Not the same as science and research, mind you, but cool all the same.
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I too think an efficient high speed rail system that touched most of the country would be awesome. Amtrak is just slow and unreliable and expensive.
 
Mark Wein said:
for once it's not an ironic use of the meme :embarrassed:
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i understand the thinking. take care of your shit here before you go explore the solar system. OTOH, that funding drives research that brings more innovation on more fronts than anybody could have ever expected. voodoo economics, indeed.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
i understand the thinking. take care of your shit here before you go explore the solar system. OTOH, that funding drives research that brings more innovation on more fronts than anybody could have ever expected. voodoo economics, indeed.
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Without this turning into a giant political bitchfest I'd have to say that I agree that cutting funding to the sciences is a bad idea.
 
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