i don't play his guitars, but this thread is making me a big fan of John Suhr

Hey! I've listened to Mr. Mark Wein playing his Suhr Strat-style and enjoyed every minute of it.
I like how Mr. Wein describes wanting different tones, yeah, different tones,
when I grew up with Ritchie Blackmore and Jeff Beck being advertised as just plugging "straight" into an amp.
Using effects wasn't something every band let me do. Half of my noise never gets to come out during any gig, anyway.

I thought I was risking clicking the annoyance button on Mr. Mark Wein, when he has only been polite and gracious with me.
And I too am a community conscious person.
"Birds of a feather flock together, yes, oh yes they do". A Toronto band, "Rough Trade" with Carole Pope, who now lives in L.A.
A song I used to play.
 
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John Shur's online presence has always struck me as straight-forward and to the point but from the hip, no BS/marketing spin or constant attempt to make it about himself or his guitars.
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IOW, the anti-John Watt
 
the semi-anti-John Watt!

I have to admit, I feel sorry for anyone trying to make it anew in the music industry now.
Young bands have to record and promote themselves, for themselves, just to feel like a media somebody.
If the automotive businesses of North America can get beat on their own continent by foreign companies,
when governments bail them out, the music business doesn't stand a chance.
 
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John Watt said:
the semi-anti-John Watt!

I have to admit, I feel sorry for anyone trying to make it anew in the music industry now.
Young bands have to record and promote themselves, for themselves, just to feel like a media somebody.
If the automotive businesses of North America can get beat on their own continent by foreign companies,
when governments bail them out, the music business doesn't stand a chance.
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:tinfoil:
 
No more six and three nighters, neglible sales for recording rock bands, North American musicians just becoming consumers,
now dependant on less expensive off-shore products.

I rest my case, and not because it's an empty.
 
John Watt said:
No more six and three nighters, neglible sales for recording rock bands, North American musicians just becoming consumers,
now dependant on less expensive off-shore products.

I rest my case, and not because it's an empty.
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you have neither a point, nor a case. not in this thread or any other thread you have ever posted in. good day.
 
John Watt said:
No more six and three nighters, neglible sales for recording rock bands, North American musicians just becoming consumers,
now dependant on less expensive off-shore products.

I rest my case, and not because it's an empty.
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Reading your posts reminds me of an old saying that would do you well. "It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." You have no idea what being in business entails, I could give you a turn key business including operating capitol and you would be broke in a week. You have no idea what it means to meet overhead and payroll and to turn a profit.
 
Yeah, I'm bad, just being self-employed for most of my life, and spending thousands on merely influential mayoral campaigns.

In the 80's and 90's, rock bands were over 70% of music sales, now less than 10%.
That's a North American statistic.
The Toronto Star, Canada's largest newspaper, hasn't had a musicians' classified section for over ten years.
That's local for me.
A lot of what's being promoted now as musical and manufacturing history is different from the sixties and seventies I experienced,
just modern artists trying to maintain relevance.
And most of the music I hear on major Ontario radio stations is just corporate playlists.
I hear the incessant propogation of Michael Jackson as a company using radio royalties to make up for his contract losses.

When you look at this world from a global, even eternal view, my life is very prophetable.
 
John Watt said:
Yeah, I'm bad, just being self-employed for most of my life, and spending thousands on merely influential mayoral campaigns.

In the 80's and 90's, rock bands were over 70% of music sales, now less than 10%.
That's a North American statistic.
The Toronto Star, Canada's largest newspaper, hasn't had a musicians' classified section for over ten years.
That's local for me.
A lot of what's being promoted now as musical and manufacturing history is different from the sixties and seventies I experienced,
just modern artists trying to maintain relevance.
And most of the music I hear on major Ontario radio stations is just corporate playlists.
I hear the incessant propogation of Michael Jackson as a company using radio royalties to make up for his contract losses.

When you look at this world from a global, even eternal view, my life is very prophetable.
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I don't think your bad, just misguided when you throw around words like profiteer to describe a man who is doing what is best for his company, employees and customers. Sometimes the reality is you have to adjust to the times. It doesn't do you or anyone else any good to stand by your high minded ideals and business models of the past while your laying people off and your business goes under.
 
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I'm not going to change my use of proper English, but now I understand why it's annoying you.
You must be associating profiteer with buccaneer, one of the first global, nautical terms.
Buccaneers were non-military adventurers who were licensed to raid other nations ports and vessels.
These were not acts of war, because the various military were not involved.
I can see calling someone a profiteer might sound too userous, in these terms.

But I'm typing profiteer to describe someone who is not building guitars for themselves,
but making them to make a profit. Grabbing a profit from another country might sound worse,
but that's what's happening here.

The word buccaneer came from the French, translated "boucan eaters", which is dried meat, usually beef.

I wouldn't use high-minded to describe my attitude. I'm self-preserving, my attitudes and output, even if it makes me a loner.
What's my new thing?
Now that Canadian soldiers' blood is in that oil, "fighting" in Afghanistan and now Libya, I'm more careful about plastic use.
I'm glad I wasn't a big band jazz player on the tour bus, educated, reading and writing charts, maintaining my own classical instrument,
just to see "hillbillys" playing electric guitars with bass and drums getting loud enough to bring down the big band scene.
 
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prof·it·eer (prf-tîr)
n.
One who makes excessive profits on goods in short supply.
intr.v. prof·it·eered, prof·it·eer·ing, prof·it·eers
To make excessive profits on goods in short supply.


this word has a negative connotation. your claimed usage is incorrect. as always.
 
What dictionary are you using? Is the simple addition of an extra "e" turning profiter to profiteer? Huh?
My understanding is like either being a Musketeer or a Mousekateer, valour and fun. They're nice.
Sorry to use the proper spelling of valour. I know watered-down everythings are easier to live by.
 
John Watt said:
I'm not going to change my use of proper English, but now I understand why it's annoying you.
You must be associating profiteer with buccaneer, one of the first global, nautical terms.
Buccaneers were non-military adventurers who were licensed to raid other nations ports and vessels.
These were not acts of war, because the various military were not involved.
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The folks you are refering to were called privateers, but why worry about specifics when throwing words around.

A privateer is a private person or ship authorized by a government by letters of marque to attack foreign shipping during wartime. Privateering was a way of mobilizing armed ships and sailors without having to spend public money or commit naval officers. They were of great benefit to a smaller naval power or one facing an enemy dependent on trade: they disrupted commerce and pressured the enemy to deploy warships to protect merchant trade against commerce raiders. They were, essentially, a Renaissance-era equivalent to the corporate and independent "military contractors" of today.
 
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Webster's Ninth New College Dictionary: There is no word, profiter.

profit: to be of service or advantage: AVAIL 2: to derive benefit: GAIN: to be of service to: BENEFIT
I'm typing, nothing financial is described.

profiteer: (1912) one who makes what is considered an unreasonable profit, esp. on the sale of essential goods during times of emergency.
I'm typing that this definition is a new one, based on modern financial activity, based on descriptions from American dictionaries.

profiterole: F, fr. profiter to profit, 1515, a miniature cream puff with a sweet or savory filling.
I'm typing, nothing financial there, you creme puffeer.

After clicking save for this, I saw reverend1 above. He's right, but what's he describing?
When countries could send men in ships to foreign lands, describing natives as "inhuman", based on colour and culture,
but basically because they didn't have guns and cannons and diseased blankets to trade,
the world wide ocean became rife with buccaneers until they became profiteers.
The same could be said for English Highwaymen, legal for English in the rest of the British Isles.
 
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John Watt said:
Webster's Ninth New College Dictionary: There is no word, profiter.

profit: to be of service or advantage: AVAIL 2: to derive benefit: GAIN: to be of service to: BENEFIT
I'm typing, nothing financial is described.

profiteer: (1912) one who makes what is considered an unreasonable profit, esp. on the sale of essential goods during times of emergency.
I'm typing that this definition is a new one, based on modern financial activity, based on descriptions from American dictionaries.

profiterole: F, fr. profiter to profit, 1515, a miniature cream puff with a sweet or savory filling.
I'm typing, nothing financial there, you creme puffeer.

After clicking save for this, I saw reverend1 above. He's right, but what's he describing?
When countries could send men in ships to foreign lands, describing natives as "inhuman", based on colour and culture,
but basically because they didn't have guns and cannons and diseased blankets to trade,
the world wide ocean became rife with buccaneers until they became profiteers.
The same could be said for English Highwaymen, legal for English in the rest of the British Isles.
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translation: John has no idea what he's talking about.
 
I'm agreeing with your definition as it is fonted in American dictionaries, probably most English too.
But where is the word profiter, as in one making a profit?

And I'm still calling you a creme puffeer.
 
John Watt said:
I'm agreeing with your definition as it is fonted in American dictionaries, probably most English too.
But where is the word profiter, as in one making a profit?

And I'm still calling you a creme puffeer.
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So we should be in business to lose money? Let me know how that works out for you.
 
John Watt said:
I'm agreeing with your definition as it is fonted in American dictionaries, probably most English too.
But where is the word profiter, as in one making a profit?

And I'm still calling you a creme puffeer.
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you can call me whatever you want. it won't stop you from being wrong.
 
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