Car of the Week: 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge

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ok, i don't think anyone is going to poo poo this one, not in all seriousness.

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Jan Jordan figures there is really only one reason she every wound up with her 1969 GTO Judge. Well, make that four reasons.

“I had four brothers,” she laughs. “I had graduated from high school. I was 18 years old in 1969 and I have four bothers and they helped me decide which car to buy.”

Jordan shopped for the car on her own, though. And she made all the decisions herself. It all turned out to be a learning experience for a first-time car buyer. “After I knew what to look for, I went to the Pontiac dealer in Wausau [Wis.] and they had a ’69 Judge, and I actually signed a contract,” recalls Jordan, a resident of Mosinee, Wis. “But by the time I got my loan and went back, they had sold it to someone. And because I was so young I didn’t realize that was illegal. So I went to Cooper Pontiac in Stevens Point, because they had one. It was orange, it was cool and I didn’t care if it was fast because I didn’t speed. I drove slow [laughs].”

“My dad passed away when I was 7 years old and my mom said I could buy a car. Nobody came with me to look for the car, I just knew what I wanted and I went alone. I got a loan from the credit union of my employer. They took the payments right out of my paycheck, so they weren’t too worried about the payments getting made.”

Jordan had one little issue to solve before she could drive the car 20 minutes home from the dealer, however. “I didn’t know how to drive a stick shift,” she says. “So the salesman gave me lessons.”

Jordan wound up driving the Judge daily for about five years before she decided it was time for something different. The GTO stayed in the family, though, because she sold it to her brother, Ed. He kept the car for a few years and then sold it to another brother, Al. “Then Al took it off the road and put it in storage in 1977. And then Al moved to Alaska and he sold it to my son, Troy Hack. Troy was going to restore it, but it was just too expensive, so Troy generously gave it back to me.”

That was in 2000 — 26 years after she had last owned the car. Jordan wasn’t sure what would eventually happen to the Judge, but she knew she didn’t want the car to leave the family. “I wanted to restore it, but it was just so expensive,” she says. “So I just had it sitting in my garage, and I’d look at it, but that was about all.”

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The man who taught me how to overhaul small block Chevys engines had one in emaculent shape in the early 80's.
I'd love to own one just like this.
 
I recently hear a podcast about John DeLorean and how he took a Pontiac Tempest and soup it up, told his boss how great it was driven something that fast and got the ok to produce the GTO. This started the muscle car craze.
 
I recently hear a podcast about John DeLorean and how he took a Pontiac Tempest and soup it up, told his boss how great it was driven something that fast and got the ok to produce the GTO. This started the muscle car craze.
the idea that the 64½ Tempest with a 389 in it started the muscle car era isn't exactly accurate.
there was the 1961 Impala SS's with the 409's.
there was the 1962 Dodges & Plymouths with the 426 Max Wedge in them.
there was the 1963 Galaxies with 427's.
just sayin'.
 
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I stand corrected.
i'm not trying to be mister tell you that you're wrong. i'm just saying that pontiac has made that claim for a long time and the fact is that there were a number of midsize/full size cars with monster muscle engines in them before the GTO.
i think one would have to agree that a 1962 Plymouth Belevere with a factory Max Wedge in it qualifies as a "muscle car". just sayin'
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I've always had a soft spot for the '66-'67 GTO's, but I'd take a '69 :)

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interesting fact about that era of GTOs.
the '66 came with the 389 engine. but the '67s actually came with the new 400, but the 389 was so popular that many buyers insisted the dealer pull the 400 and install a crate 389 into them, even tho the difference in performance between the two is nill.
finding a '67 with a numbers matching (original) 400 is kinda rare.
 
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My uncle had a '69 GTO Judge. He told me used to put a $20 bill on the dash and tell his passenger they could keep the money if they could grab it.

Then he would punch it.

No one ever got that $20 bill.
 
My uncle had a '69 GTO Judge. He told me used to put a $20 bill on the dash and tell his passenger they could keep the money if they could grab it.

Then he would punch it.

No one ever got that $20 bill.
I remember the first time I sat in the passenger seat while the owner put it through it's paces, skipping second gear, of course. :embarrassed:
It was better than my buddy's '69 Challenger 440 6-pack, but not as eye bulging as a '69 GT 500 429.
 
I remember the first time I sat in the passenger seat while the owner put it through it's paces, skipping second gear, of course. :embarrassed:
It was better than my buddy's '69 Challenger 440 6-pack, but not as eye bulging as a '69 GT 500 429.
:facepalm:

Challenger wasn't made until 1970.
'69 GT500's came with 428's.
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The '70 Challenger 440-six pack was the quickest 0-60 of all the muscle cars made in the '60s-'70s, barring specialty cars like the Cobra, etc.

And that's not me saying it, but back in the '80s one of the car magazines (Road & Track? Car & Driver?) was able to get a boat load of different, all stock/period correct muscle cars and put them thru the paces using comparable tires. The '70 Challenger w/440-6 beat everything at 0-60 times.

Some of the other cars beat it thru the 1/4 mile, but not many. '70 Hemi 'Cuda, 454 Chevelle and a couple of others.
 
A beautiful automobile that I would love to have. If you don't think a Judge is cool, than I don't know how to help you.

None of these old muscle cars are really fast by modern standards. Even on modern tires they struggle to beat a beige V6 Camry to 60 or in the quarter. The speed isn't the point. The point is the visceral enjoyment of driving them and the noise those giant motors make when the secondaries kick in. Doesn't matter that a family grocery getter can beat them on paper, as the fam-mobile doesn't put a giant ass grin on your face.
 
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A beautiful automobile that I would love to have. If you don't think a Judge is cool, than I don't know how to help you.

None of these old muscle cars are really fast by modern standards. Even on modern tires they struggle to beat a beige V6 Camry to 60 or in the quarter. The speed isn't the point. The point is the visceral enjoyment of driving them and the noise those giant motors make when the secondaries kick in. Doesn't matter that a family grocery getter can beat them on paper, as the fam-mobile doesn't put a giant ass grin on your face.
agreed. and even if you put cheater slicks on the Camry (or whatever)....it won't pull the front wheels off the ground and throw yer ass in the back seat :baimun:
you take that Camry (or whatever) and you add weight to them until they're almost 4000 lbs, and i bet they aren't so fast.
and won't have anywhere near the torque.
 
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