WTF: Backyard Chickens

reverend1 said:
Someone wasted a lot of time one two stupid charts. What's the point of these things?
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They're funny because many vegetarians have heard most of those AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

They might not be as funny to people who haven't had to repeatedly hear people say/write those things. :embarrassed:
 
A town (suburb) I lived in a few years ago allowed chickens and we had a couple of neighbors who kept some. The disease part is real if you cram too many in a small space. That's why Tyson mega barn chickens have to be pumped full of antibiotics all the time. Anyway, the town had a formula for how many chickens you could keep based on the yard size. I think it usually came up to 4-5 birds. Any more than that and you can have problems. They put the restrictions in place after one guy (ain't it always that one guy?) decided he wanted to run a commercial chicken operation out of his yard. He built up the whole back yard in coops and had hundreds of em. Of course the neighbors complained. The city was planning to ban the practice outright but one resident who worked for the state dept of agriculture convinced them to limit numbers instead of an outright ban. Sometimes reasonable approaches still work. :lol:
 
reverend1 said:
Not at all. I'm just not sure what the idea is behind those things. Imagining dumbass things someone might say to you? I don't know. Someone has more spare time than I do.
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:embarrassed:)

Those are things every vegetarian has had said to them. And your dismissive tone suggests that maybe you're a little threatened by the charts, man.
 
BATCAT said:
I think if you're basing your concept of a vegetarian diet on some frozen patties from a box you're not using a very good sample. I mean that's basically like if I fried up a package of Steak-umms and then concluded that all meat was unpalatable.
:ack:
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Yeah, the sweeping generalizations again. We should arrest everyone who makes sweeping generalizations. :grin:
 
BATCAT said:
They're funny because many vegetarians have heard most of those AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

They might not be as funny to people who haven't had to repeatedly hear people say/write those things. :embarrassed:
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I guess it's really not an issue for me. I know more veggies on the forum than in real life. My Aunt is sort of a veggie, she eats fish. I'm not sure if that disqualifies her or not. Makes it easy for me though. She loves salmon, so that's what we serve when she visits.

Some of the questions on the list, while I imagine could get annoying after while, seem like people just asking a sincere question to learn rather than a slam on veggies. How do you get protein, do you eat fish, those types of questions.
 
Chicken Man said:
:embarrassed:)

Those are things every vegetarian has had said to them.
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Have we talked about PROTEIN today? Well, if we haven't, I was wondering if you've ever considered if you're getting enough PROTEIN? You wouldn't want to have TOO LITTLE PROTEIN, would you?

Did you know almost ten thousand American die every year from protein deficiencies? That sounds totally crazy but it's seriously true.
 
BATCAT said:
Have we talked about PROTEIN today? Well, if we haven't, I was wondering if you've ever considered if you're getting enough PROTEIN? You wouldn't want to have TOO LITTLE PROTEIN, would you?

Did you know almost ten thousand American die every year from protein deficiencies? That sounds totally crazy but it's seriously true.
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Really? I would have never guessed that.
 
just so we can cram everything in here, WTF is up with the Paleo diet? I have no problem with the diet itself. people eat what they want to eat. but it seems more like a cult than a diet. Paleo people can't stop talking about Paleo even when the conversation has nothing to do with it. and they're really intense about it too.
 
In all seriousness, this protein thing is crazy. Basically NOBODY in the US, meat-eater, vegetarian, or vegan, isn't getting enough protein. There are a few dietary concerns you need to keep in mind when eating a vegetarian (or especially vegan diet), but GETTING ENOUGH PROTEIN doesn't even come close to the list. WE ARE ALL GETTING ENOUGH PROTEIN. EVERYBODY CAN RELAX.

I don't know when this protein thing became a major fixation (the 50's?), but it seems especially bad in my Mom's generation. For a certain period of my adolescence she was positively obsessed with protein.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
just so we can cram everything in here, WTF is up with the Paleo diet? I have no problem with the diet itself. people eat what they want to eat. but it seems more like a cult than a diet. Paleo people can't stop talking about Paleo even when the conversation has nothing to do with it. and they're really intense about it too.
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It's the "action figure" of the diet industry. Diets are for pussies, but eating like a caveman? Dudes'll do that. And it seems that virtually ANY conscious eating in this day and age can cause you to lose weight--just taking a minute to think is enough to make a difference at the start.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
just so we can cram everything in here, WTF is up with the Paleo diet? I have no problem with the diet itself. people eat what they want to eat. but it seems more like a cult than a diet. Paleo people can't stop talking about Paleo even when the conversation has nothing to do with it. and they're really intense about it too.
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I have noticed this too. Plus, I have met some people who were very intense about low-carb high-fat diets and kept bringing it up constantly.
 
Here's a simple rule of thumb that might make things a little better for all.

If you don't eat meat, great, but shut the fuck up about it.
If you do eat meat, great, but shut the fuck up about it.
If you don't eat carbs, great, but shut the fuck up about it.
If you do eat carbs, great, but shut the fuck up about it.
If you eat like a caveman, great, but shut the fuck up about it.
If you don't eat like a caveman, great, but shut the fuck up about it.
Etc.
 
Chicken Man said:
Obviously, this is a false dichotomy. The choice isn't between buying all of your food at the grocery store or farming full-time. The chicken owners I know spend maybe 15 minutes a day--less time that you might w/ a dog--gathering eggs, tossing feed, and sweeping out the straw/manure from their 2-3 layers.
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I'm not saying that it IS a choice between being a full time farmer or a grocery store shopper. I'm just saying that before you sign up for backyard chickens, it would be a good idea to lean how much you can tolerate shit shoveling, blood and guts, etc.

If more people did that, we wouldn't have so many "rescue chickens" like are described in the OP.
 
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