Question: 4/20 and the Wienerdome...

[Kerouac]

I work in what I'm convinced is the only restaurant in the world that drug tests. I mean, the culinary industry is built upon the scarred and burnt bodies of men and women with a myriad of addictions to cope with the physical and mental toll of the job, and even in lousy chain restaurants that have a zero-drug policy, the BOH staff usually has a blind eye turned towards their activities. But because the restaurant I work at is part of a regional health non-profit company, we have to adhere to the same policies as everyone else does, company wide. I had to pass a piss-test for employment and could still be called up for a random drug screening, in which case I'm almost certainly fucked.

I quit drinking on the regular... just a couple of drinks a year, and I can't remember the last time I was full-on drunk. But smoking in the evening before bed always helps me unwind and get to sleep earlier, otherwise I'll be up to 3 a.m.

 

[DdBob]

Or the spellcheck.

tamoto tamahto *spits*

 

[reverend1]

I work in what I'm convinced is the only restaurant in the world that drug tests. I mean, the culinary industry is built upon the scarred and burnt bodies of men and women with a myriad of addictions to cope with the physical and mental toll of the job, and even in lousy chain restaurants that have a zero-drug policy, the BOH staff usually has a blind eye turned towards their activities. But because the restaurant I work at is part of a regional health non-profit company, we have to adhere to the same policies as everyone else does, company wide. I had to pass a piss-test for employment and could still be called up for a random drug screening, in which case I'm almost certainly fucked.

I quit drinking on the regular... just a couple of drinks a year, and I can't remember the last time I was full-on drunk. But smoking in the evening before bed always helps me unwind and get to sleep earlier, otherwise I'll be up to 3 a.m.

If my wife drug tested her employees she would have no staff left. Drug testing in the restaurant industry is virtually unheard of.

 

[DdBob]

I work in what I'm convinced is the only restaurant in the world that drug tests. I mean, the culinary industry is built upon the scarred and burnt bodies of men and women with a myriad of addictions to cope with the physical and mental toll of the job, and even in lousy chain restaurants that have a zero-drug policy, the BOH staff usually has a blind eye turned towards their activities. But because the restaurant I work at is part of a regional health non-profit company, we have to adhere to the same policies as everyone else does, company wide. I had to pass a piss-test for employment and could still be called up for a random drug screening, in which case I'm almost certainly fucked.

I quit drinking on the regular... just a couple of drinks a year, and I can't remember the last time I was full-on drunk. But smoking in the evening before bed always helps me unwind and get to sleep earlier, otherwise I'll be up to 3 a.m.

I think it's good...I don't want some chef high on the weed spacing out while cutting a cucumber and then slicing his finger off into my salad..fuck that. With drug testing this insures that the chef will be focused on the present task and not tripping balls daydreaming about the last episode of spongebob squarepants he saw

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

If my wife drug tested her employees she would have no staff left. Drug testing in the restaurant industry is virtually unheard of.

The local Applebee's franchiser, Apple Metro, drug tests all potential hires for their 35 locations. They don't care where you come from, what your criminal history is, or what experience you have. If you've got a good attitude and can pass a piss test, you're hired.

 

[Peen Simmons]

I think it's good...I don't want some chef high on the weed spacing out while cutting a cucumber and then slicing his finger off into my salad..fuck that. With drug testing this insures that the chef will be focused on the present task and not tripping balls daydreaming about the last episode of spongebob squarepants he saw

Weed Deebo wasn't this big of a Pence about shit. Just saying.

 

[Kerouac]

If my wife drug tested her employees she would have no staff left. Drug testing in the restaurant industry is virtually unheard of.

We're a smoke-free campus too. So not only do you have to pass a piss-test, you have to either commit to stop smoking (which our company DOES offer a completely free treatment program to help) or you have to drive off property to do so.

So that means we're also one of the few restaurants in existence where there are NO SMOKE BREAKS. On a busy night that's the only guaranteed break you might get at any other restaurant.

The last time someone in our kitchen was called in for a random drug test our chef swore up and down that his boss at corporate picked that person because he'd be the only one that could actually pass.

 

[Kerouac]

The local Applebee's franchiser, Apple Metro, drug tests all potential hires for their 35 locations. They don't care where you come from, what your criminal history is, or what experience you have. If you've got a good attitude and can pass a piss test, you're hired.

So they have mediocre food served by the most mediocre cooks they can find.

 

[wagdog]

I don't get the concept that weed turns you into a loser burnout in the same sense that I don't think alcohol turns you into a puke covered piss stained gutter hobo......sure both have consequences if abused but abuse is down to the person indulging.

I've know plenty of pot smokers and drinkers who've resisted those pitfalls and plenty who've succumbed.

Any mind altering thing in excess is bad. I know occasional pot smokers and they're great people, lead successful lives, etc... I also know people who are stoned every waking moment and they're pretty much perma-burned at this point. The same goes for alcohol. I think it's hypocritical that one substance is illegal and the other isn't. They're both capable of being abused.

My opinion is it boils down to money; any fool could grow reasonably usable, free weed. Making your own alcohol is doable but requires enough skill, equipment and time for most people to just buy it.

 

[reverend1]

So they have mediocre food served by the most mediocre cooks they can find.

Well, Applebee's so..............

 

[Kerouac]

Well, Applebee's so..............

I remember reading in one of Bourdain's books about how if you want to be a chef, go to culinary school and then the only job you can find is at Applebee's, you've not only wasted your investment, but you're never going to make the leap to a "real" restaurant, because those restaurants would consider both your degree and your work experience completely useless.

Sometimes I wish I could go back and tell 18 year old Andy to go to Culinary School instead of music school, because I'm at a definite disadvantage compared to the other guys I work with. But then I remind myself that they went to school and I'm working right along beside them, so obviously our chef knows I'm capable of the same work.

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

So they have mediocre food re-heated by the most mediocre cooks they can find.

fix'd.

 

[Coralkong]

I'm waiting for my company to mandate drug testing. I can't believe we're not doing it already.

That being said, the running joke is that IF they did that, they'd end up with a couple of stiffs in upper management, and no workers. And the stiffs know this.

 

[Gary Blanchard]

My brother was a roofer. He told me they had mandatory drug testing; if you came up negative, they fired you.

 

[reverend1]

My brother was a roofer. He told me they had mandatory drug testing; if you came up negative, they fired you.

I hear a roofer's personal politics come into play when choosing jobs.

 

[micwalt]

I was a big fan in my 20s. Got less and less comfortable with it after a while. It's probably been 17 years since I've touched it.

 

[mongooz]

........daydreaming about the last episode of spongebob squarepants he saw

see, you clearly don't understand how weed works. the chef wouldn't even remember that he watched the tv last night. rotflmao

and, btw, back when i did partake, i would focus on things like a mofo.
(it was a good time to do some house cleaning. i could sweep the FUCK out of a carpet when i was stoned)

 

[Denverdave]

I live in a 4/20 legal state. I was very ambivalent about the whole legalization debate. I don't partake and do not ever care to (I did many moons ago on occasion). I don't care if you do or don't and pot laws are pretty much unenforceable anyways. But we have seen here that there is indeed a negative impact from legalization as well as a positive. The whole responsible usage issue pops up more when there are more options to be irresponsible with. Especially with teenagers when way stronger pot suddenly becomes even more easily obtainable.

In my mind the negatives have outweighed the positives in the legalization here, but this might be the necessary steps to finding a good way to regulate the mainstream legalization that is inevitable in the US. I think the Feds need to back off and let the states decide on a state by state basis whether it will be legal there or not.

 

[reverend1]

I live in a 4/20 legal state. I was very ambivalent about the whole legalization debate. I don't partake and do not ever care to (I did many moons ago on occasion). I don't care if you do or don't and pot laws are pretty much unenforceable anyways. But we have seen here that there is indeed a negative impact from legalization as well as a positive. The whole responsible usage issue pops up more when there are more options to be irresponsible with. Especially with teenagers when way stronger pot suddenly becomes even more easily obtainable.

In my mind the negatives have outweighed the positives in the legalization here, but this might be the necessary steps to finding a good way to regulate the mainstream legalization that is inevitable in the US. I think the Feds need to back off and let the states decide on a state by state basis whether it will be legal there or not.

What kind of negative effects are you seeing in Colorado?

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

I live in a 4/20 legal state. I was very ambivalent about the whole legalization debate. I don't partake and do not ever care to (I did many moons ago on occasion). I don't care if you do or don't and pot laws are pretty much unenforceable anyways. But we have seen here that there is indeed a negative impact from legalization as well as a positive. The whole responsible usage issue pops up more when there are more options to be irresponsible with. Especially with teenagers when way stronger pot suddenly becomes even more easily obtainable.

In my mind the negatives have outweighed the positives in the legalization here, but this might be the necessary steps to finding a good way to regulate the mainstream legalization that is inevitable in the US. I think the Feds need to back off and let the states decide on a state by state basis whether it will be legal there or not.

In related news, I read this article today:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/colorado...s-live-pot-092311376.html/?camp=WATAF&chan=fb