This really ticked me off.

I think the tone of the article turned me off so much, it was not easy to really take in the message. When I perform I engage the audience, I show some appropriate energy, and put my heart and soul into my music. I do what is appropriate for me and my music.

I am reminded of JD Considine's review of Depeche Mode (in the days before they had a guitar on stage); he panned the performance because there was no guitar god posing.

Again, most acoustic gigs that I do are really background music gigs, and you need to be laid back. I have seen folks who are doing acoustic concerts who are dull as dirt, but I have also seen some who over-emote to the point of parody. It is a matter of taste and style.
 
I have seen folks who are doing acoustic concerts who are dull as dirt, but I have also seen some who over-emote to the point of parody. It is a matter of taste and style.

Oh yeah... I've been to some coffee house performances where they are in over-the-top anguish and it makes me want to buy them a balloon and a dilly bar. :helper:
 
Gary I think you'd get a lot more people excited about your shows and your music if you were a name-dropping prick.
 
I think he should embrace his inner hippy.... throw a Greatful Dead cover in... and wear a tie dye shirt under his blazer. :baimun:
 
I think the tone of the article turned me off so much, it was not easy to really take in the message. When I perform I engage the audience, I show some appropriate energy, and put my heart and soul into my music. I do what is appropriate for me and my music.

I think otherwise Gary.

You have made some great points that are very true in that an acoustic gig is background music. But that can change depending on the performer. No one needs to jump around, bring out a rubber chicken or tell bad jokes in between songs to get noticed. But the aura of the performer and the music they perform can attract current as well as new fans. Auras are different in everyone, some are laid back and some are fully energized. After playing acoustics shows for a short period (about 2.5 years), I have seen what others do and how they try to set a mood or not. Some I liked, some I didn't and some just didn't work at all.

As for background music it depends on the venue that you are playing at. Some coffeehouses or restaurants are setup for background music while others - shows. Just because it is a coffeehouse, doens't mean it is background music. We as artists always get into what are playing and strive so that our energies are broadcasted to our listeners. The same listeners who find Gary Blanchard appealing may or may not find Randy Lee Hano appealing and vice versa.

The goal of the artist is to capture the listener and embrace them and take the for a musical journey. And to really improve that as well as share the journey is to build a fan base. This will help create more opportunities for current and potential fans to see you. To do this, you have to improve on your product - setlist, stage presence and audience relationship. In the article Wade made suggestions to this artist to help improve on her show. Advice goes along way whether paid for or not along with critical feedback to improve your product. You can take the information for a grain of salt or embrace it - it never hurts to try. You can always go back to the old way of things. As for the artist in Wade's article, she gave it a try, her music didn't change but how the audience perceived her did. After all we want to share our talents and gifts to the world otherwise we wouldn't perform.
 
At this point, I tend to pass over the background music type gig, which limits my gigging but I go for quality rather than quantity. When I do a "listening" gig, I talk with the audience, sharing stories behind the song, interact with the audience, put some energy into it. Now that I am plugged in for most gigs, I can be a bit more mobile as I perform.

Again, Wade's tone is a turn-off for me, as was his example of the Springsteen-like performance. That might work for some artists, but I would hate to see a lot of people doing things that are out of their character and out of character with the music. I fully agree that you need to have presence, I just don't believe in following a formula; you have to pull it from within. That is the hippie in me - keep it real. :hippie:
 
@Wade Sutton -

I want to thank you for coming here, and for being willing to clarify your thoughts on why you wrote the article for your site. I live in the Nashville area (I've lived in Murfreesboro, TN, and am currently in Clarksville, TN), and have seen a lot of very talented people playing a variety of venues. Some stood out, and some didn't. Some had awesome talent, but with nothing to really draw you to them. There are plenty of folks in this area playing restaurant gigs that are obviously semi-pro and are doing it for the fun and a some extra money, but there are many others that have come to Nashville to make it big. It should be noted then, that especially in this area - which can be a field of lost dreams - I think that some guidance to help make it over the hump is a valuable asset. All the best to you.
 
As for the artist in Wade's article, she gave it a try, her music didn't change but how the audience perceived her did.

THIS is probably the most important line in your post (at least to me). Lily's music did NOT change. The only thing I changed musically in the entire show was in one of the songs I had her playing much more softly to pull her audience into a certain mood. But the songs she wanted to do for the show stayed the same as when she first brought me on. All of the songs in the set with the exception of three were originals.

The way the audience perceived her changed greatly but it happened because the show was designed to do just that. Every movement on stage was planned out and rehearsed. From the way she tilted her head to when she closed her eyes. She was taught to pull people in and look for audience members who would mirror her own movements when she had eye contact with them (people in the world of psychology refer to this as "emotional contagion" and talk about it a lot when discussing it when two people are dating as a sign that they like each other). We even picked out key points in the show, when we knew the energy level would be at its highest and the crowd's mood would be happiest, to bring up the tip jar and that people could sign up for her e-mail list.

It all comes down to pulling the crowd into the show and then controlling their mood through the end. In fact she did the show again, last week in Nashville, at a place she has performed at a handful of times. When she was done with the show, the sound guy came up to her and specifically said he had never seen her take control of the stage and audience the way she did with that show.

A big part of the problem is songwriters, singers, musicians, bands, etc want fans to appreciate what they do for the same reasons they appreciate themselves. So when somebody breaks out some difficult technique vocally or instrumentally...while the crowd might enjoy it, they enjoy it for different reasons. Most of those audience members aren't musicians or singers. They appreciate it for different reasons. Most of them can't even tell you what a bridge is. They don't have the same emotional attachment to somebody's original song that the writer has. And, as an artist, you can't expect them to like what you do for the reasons you think they should like you.

Its like walking into an art museum and looking at this incredible painting of a Greek goddess. Painters are looking at it analyzing the mixture of the colors and the texture and talking about brushes and the quality of the canvas. They are talking about the painter's inspiration for it and how their past works have led to this particular piece.

The rest of us are like..."BOOBS!"

@Wade Sutton -

I want to thank you for coming here, and for being willing to clarify your thoughts on why you wrote the article for your site. I live in the Nashville area (I've lived in Murfreesboro, TN, and am currently in Clarksville, TN), and have seen a lot of very talented people playing a variety of venues. Some stood out, and some didn't. Some had awesome talent, but with nothing to really draw you to them. There are plenty of folks in this area playing restaurant gigs that are obviously semi-pro and are doing it for the fun and a some extra money, but there are many others that have come to Nashville to make it big. It should be noted then, that especially in this area - which can be a field of lost dreams - I think that some guidance to help make it over the hump is a valuable asset. All the best to you.

Thank YOU. Seems like a lot of the people from down there that I know are in the city itself, Franklin, and Hendersonville. At least those are the names that stick out to me right now. And Nashville IS a field of lost dreams. So many people have the "I'm gonna move there and get discovered" mentality but none of them want to put the work in. Plus a lot of them get there and immediately start playing a lot of bars only to find out the bars won't let them play originals because people won't stick around and drink. So they rely on covers to play the bars to "get their name out there" when the labels refuse to take them seriously until they are traveling OUTSIDE of Nashville and basically touring...which comes back to people thinking the success is rooted solely in the music and don't approach it as a business.
 
The way the audience perceived her changed greatly but it happened because the show was designed to do just that. Every movement on stage was planned out and rehearsed. From the way she tilted her head to when she closed her eyes. She was taught to pull people in and look for audience members who would mirror her own movements when she had eye contact with them (people in the world of psychology refer to this as "emotional contagion" and talk about it a lot when discussing it when two people are dating as a sign that they like each other). We even picked out key points in the show, when we knew the energy level would be at its highest and the crowd's mood would be happiest, to bring up the tip jar and that people could sign up for her e-mail list.

It all comes down to pulling the crowd into the show and then controlling their mood through the end. In fact she did the show again, last week in Nashville, at a place she has performed at a handful of times. When she was done with the show, the sound guy came up to her and specifically said he had never seen her take control of the stage and audience the way she did with that show.

A big part of the problem is songwriters, singers, musicians, bands, etc want fans to appreciate what they do for the same reasons they appreciate themselves. So when somebody breaks out some difficult technique vocally or instrumentally...while the crowd might enjoy it, they enjoy it for different reasons. Most of those audience members aren't musicians or singers. They appreciate it for different reasons. Most of them can't even tell you what a bridge is. They don't have the same emotional attachment to somebody's original song that the writer has. And, as an artist, you can't expect them to like what you do for the reasons you think they should like you.

It's all in the details. We musicians spend years working on our abilities to play but fail at several areas and one of them is the show. Artists go into a rehearsal room and practice to get the song right meanwhile go onstage and forgot that an audience exists. The musician(s) then concentrates so much on the song(s) that the never engage with the audience (customer) because they are caught up in trying to make everything alright.
 
It's all in the details. We musicians spend years working on our abilities to play but fail at several areas and one of them is the show. Artists go into a rehearsal room and practice to get the song right meanwhile go onstage and forgot that an audience exists. The musician(s) then concentrates so much on the song(s) that the never engage with the audience (customer) because they are caught up in trying to make everything alright.

Exactly.

Diggin' the pic of the the Jedi squirrel, btw.
 
Gary is one of my favorite people on this forum... but I agree with the original link for the most part.

Granted, the tone of the writing is in your face, but it is an advertising piece, not an editorial. Also, my tastes in general lean towards funk and habaneros more so than folk and a latte'.

I know some people are just fine with quiet "background" acoustic performances, but those do not hold my ADD riddled brain for more than a song or two, and are rarely memorable. Watching Jason Mraz shows, like the Java Joe sessions, really illustrated how fun and engaging an acoustic show could be.



That's the worst kind of acoustic show for me. If I was at a bar and they were playing that sort of thing I'd drain my drink and get the hell out of there.
 
Wade, I was a chiropractor many years ago (my own back issues led to my early retirement), and upon graduating into private practice most of us learned that we knew all the technical aspects of being a chiropractor, but almost nothing related to managing a business. Management consultatants filled that void. Had my practice failed because of inadequate ability to run it successfully, I would not have been doing justice to my ability to help people live healthier lives. In the same way, you are offering a service that helps aspiring musicians to do justice to their talents, and allowing the message in their songs to be heard.
 
I feel people can, and should, be helped to tap into themselves and bring that out on stage. A performance that is all about musical perfection without musical passion is not anything that will engage folks. I do not, personally, believe in learning "tricks" to appear professional; it comes off wrong and can be as off-putting as one who just stands and sings. Find your authentic self, and show that to the audience. That is my approach. It seems to work. My wife has often pointed out how folks at open mics respond differently to me than to other performers. I am certainly not better, but I am more involved with the crowd.
 
<<<< In fact I just published a new book with Rick Barker, who was Taylor Swift's day-to-day manager for a little over two years. >>>>>

No wonder I think you suck.

<<<< Many of my teachings have come about from going to the labels and saying, "What do you want from these people? What are you looking for? What do they need to work on?" I take what they say the artists need to improve on, and that is what I teach.>>>>>>

Precisely why I hate 99% of popular music. Assholes like this telling the ARTIST what to do and defining for ME the consumer what I should want. And the "artists" going along with the whole program in order to "make it". This kind of business model plays to the lowest common denominator and gives us crappy art.
 
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I can definitely see Wade's POV.
The last band that I played in (we were really backing up a solo artist) was terrible at showmanship. Unfortunately the singer just had no stage presence at all. She had a great voice and wrote good songs, but she didn't know how to work the crowd at all. Sometimes she would try to say something clever or funny between the songs, and it would just fall flat. The audience often lost interest after the first few songs. To really be successful as a performer you really have to know how to grab the audience by the throat and hold them. If you want to make fans out of them you need to give them something to remember. Some people can do this more naturally than others, but there are certainly techniques that can be learned that can enhance whatever ability you have in this area.
 
So I started reading the book last night.

So far it's not been very informative, other than telling me how a whole lot of people do things the wrong way, but Wade and his friends have made Taylor Swift really big. Which just IMHO is worth permaban status to the Forbidden Zone. cop0

I'll keep reading and maybe it'll get better, but it certainly reads more like an ad for his services than a book that you'll get any lasting takeaway from.
 
I feel people can, and should, be helped to tap into themselves and bring that out on stage. A performance that is all about musical perfection without musical passion is not anything that will engage folks. I do not, personally, believe in learning "tricks" to appear professional; it comes off wrong and can be as off-putting as one who just stands and sings. Find your authentic self, and show that to the audience. That is my approach. It seems to work. My wife has often pointed out how folks at open mics respond differently to me than to other performers. I am certainly not better, but I am more involved with the crowd.

Exactly. It has to be authentic, and paid advice from industry "insiders" is the opposite of that.

I enjoy showmanship as much as the next guy. But did Little Richard have to pay somebody to tell him how to do it? Springsteen had Landau, but more as a overall muse/vision director to bounce ideas off and such. He learned to work the audience on his own.
I also enjoy people who just stand and play. It is music after all, not acting. Can you imagine the band's reaction to some bloke like this telling the Grateful Dead they need to engage the audience? lol. " Hey Ramrod, dispatch this person with vengence please!"
 
Exactly. It has to be authentic, and paid advice from industry "insiders" is the opposite of that.

I enjoy showmanship as much as the next guy. But did Little Richard have to pay somebody to tell him how to do it? Springsteen had Landau, but more as a overall muse/vision director to bounce ideas off and such. He learned to work the audience on his own.
I also enjoy people who just stand and play. It is music after all, not acting. Can you imagine the band's reaction to some bloke like this telling the Grateful Dead they need to engage the audience? lol. " Hey Ramrod, dispatch this person with vengence please!"

Say "Car Ramrod."
 
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