Warmoth vs. Suhr in the real world.

[Mark Wein]

Yeah. Theres a definite reason why Suhrs are so expensive. And its not just the electronics


Actually the Warmoth sounds pretty good but was kind of hard to play for the first two and a half hours of the gig. I picked up my Suhr for the last set just to compare since the guys in the band wanted to hear and not only was it like having weights lifted off my hands technique-wise but it just sounded better. The Warmoth might just stay what it was intended to be, which is my main backup and practice guitar. With the slightly wider string spacing it forces me to play with way more "intention" and accuracy. On the SUhr last night I was playing things onstage that I was never able to before....towards the end of the night I was even doing some Zakk Wydle stuff that popped into my head. I was stoked.

 

[Guitar Heel]

i your Suhr

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

you played like Zakk Wylde on purpose? ???

 

[reverend1]

you played like Zakk Wylde on purpose? ???

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[Mark Wein]

you played like Zakk Wylde on purpose? ???

This................................

Yeah. But without the shitty tone and about half speed. Which is still plenty fast. I've been working on pentatonic phrases more like Eric Johnson but if you don't move one of his sequences through the rest of the scale it just sounds like Zakk half the time

 

[Tig]

Well, now you have the answer for those "is there any real difference between cheap guitars and expensive guitars?" type of questions.

 

[Phil513]

Are you disappointed in the Warmoth then?

 

[Mark Wein]

Well, now you have the answer for those "is there any real difference between cheap guitars and expensive guitars?" type of questions.

The thing is that if you were to build that Warmoth from scratch its about a $1500 guitar

There is definitely something to be said for a good small builder instrument if you have the cash though.

 

[Mark Wein]

Are you disappointed in the Warmoth then?

not really. It still sounds good, it's just not a Suhr. Which is how is should be I guess.

 

[Guitar Heel]

There is definitely something to be said for a good small builder instrument if you have the cash though.

My Giffin is the nicest guitar I've ever played, no doubt. While I couldn't get into the Nashville Tele thing that my TAG had going on, the quality of that guitar was out of this world.

 

[Denverdave]

Well, now you have the answer for those "is there any real difference between cheap guitars and expensive guitars?" type of questions.

Yeah - though I already knew the answer. I would love to get a pro level electric, but the cash is not there. The $200.00 facelift on my Benford will have to do for now...

 

[Kerouac]

Yeah. But without the *SQUEAL* shitty tone and about half *SQUEAL* speed. Which is still plenty fast *SQUEAL*. I've been working on pentatonic phra- *SQUEAL* -ses more like Eric Johnson but if you don't *SQUEAL* move one of his sequences through the rest of *SQUEAL* the *SQUEAL* scale it just sounds like Zakk *SQUEAL**SQUEAL* half the time

 

[Lerxst]

I've played a few other warmoth builds in addition to my own....One thing it proves to me is that the guitar in the end is more than just the sum of the parts, it's also a result of the quality of the bits, how the selected parts work together, the quality of the fit/finish/assembly and then especially, the final setup.

Shur has the advantage of having built enough guitars in his day to know how to check off all those boxes.

 

[Mark Wein]

That too.

I've played a few other warmoth builds in addition to my own....One thing it proves to me is that the guitar in the end is more than just the sum of the parts, it's also a result of the quality of the bits, how the selected parts work together, the quality of the fit/finish/assembly and then especially, the final setup.

Shur has the advantage of having built enough guitars in his day to know how to check off all those boxes.

I think that if I could setup the instrument better (which I'm getting there with) and could specify everything from the beginning and have a small "experimental" budget for parts it could turn out quite a but better but the decades of experience that someone like Suhr has (and his staff too) is something that I'll never get close to.

 

[Elias Graves]

So, Warmoth=Agile?

EG

 

[Mark Wein]

So, Warmoth=Agile?

EG

Abslutely not, but the two Agiles I have played have been really good instruments.

 

[Elias Graves]

I've never even seen an Agile.
Did see an SX the other day. Not good.

EG

 

[Mark Wein]

I've never even seen an Agile.
Did see an SX the other day. Not good.

EG

Ive only seen a few and they were good values for the money. Not "as good as a Gibson" or any of that shit but definitely worth it.

The SX guitars I've played have been shit though. YMMV.

 

[mosiddiqi]

I'm getting close to splashing out on a Suhr...I played one last week that felt like I already owned it.

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[Kerouac]

I've had 3 SX instruments, plus a teacher at LMA has one of their basses.

My Tele and my Lapsteel are/were both great, especially for the coin. I only flipped the lapsteel because I was given my Gibson lappy, and the Tele is still on the rack in my studio and gets pulled out fairly often.

The SX acoustic on the other hand, was complete shit. It was a 3/4 size I bought hoping to find a better source for my younger students and it is complete garbage. It's got wall hanging in it's future.

Now, one of the teachers at the academy has an SX P-bass copy and I *really* like it. He had it set-up and strung with better strings and it's ended up all over his album, even going up against a Lakland he bought to use on it. He sent the Lakland back after a couple of days, because sonically they were so close it was eerie. I'd still like to get a LPB P-Bass from them...