Is there such a thing as a woman that's too horny?

rickenvox said:
I posted an article. I'm glad that's entertained everyone, but as a scholar you might want to get a grip on perspective here. I had actually researched this subject extensively a couple of years ago for a project I was assigned to, so this thread didn't get me started "trying hard" to learn about the subject.
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You need to get laid, foxy voxy.
 
rickenvox said:
you seriously think me posting 23 studies on here would go over well. I posted one non-technical scholarly article that if you didn't take the time to read, we don't have anything to discuss. There is nothing you're going to post that will address the missing supporting data or even clear clinical definition of sexual addiction my article points out, because there is none. And as I said, Google wouldn't know the difference between a scholarly article or something someone published through a "vanity publisher" with their own money and no peer review by the scientific community.
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I know the difference between accredited publications and woo, that's why I posted links to the first two decent studies I encountered. I suspect you're capable of the same.

I skimmed your excerpts. They have obvious logical flaws, e.g. "how can sex be an addiction if some people have sex and aren't addicts?" I certainly can believe that there are a bunch of therapists making a bunch of money treating people who don't have any actual condition, that doesn't mean there aren't people suffering from compulsion issues. I don't care how many fake gluten disorders are out there, celiac disorder is still real.

Correct, the precise lack of a clinical definition is keeping sex addiction out of the DSM for now. Based on the amount of work being done, based on the fact that other behavioral compulsions have been categorized, and the similarity to what proponents of sex addict describe to those disorders, that will certainly change.

The second dismisses the similarity in brain activity as being similar to any pleasurable sensation. That totally misses the point, since it's exactly the malfunction/overuse of the brain's pleasure centers that cause addiction generally. Cocaine has essentially no withdrawal symptoms, it's the havoc wreaked on the dopeamine loop.

And you don't need to copy any studies. You can cite them, and anybody who wants can read critiques of them. If I have time I can browse them if they'll turn up on Pubmed.
 
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ermghoti said:
I know the difference between accredited publications and woo, that's why I posted links to the first two decent studies I encountered. I suspect you're capable of the same.

I skimmed your excerpts. They have obvious logical flaws, e.g. "how can sex be an addiction if some people have sex and aren't addicts?" I certainly can believe that there are a bunch of therapists making a bunch of money treating people who don't have any actual condition, that doesn't mean there aren't people suffering from compulsion issues. I don't care how many fake gluten disorders are out there, celiac disorder is still real.

Correct, the precise lack of a clinical definition is keeping sex addiction out of the DSM for now. Based on the amount of work being done, based on the fact that other behavioral compulsions have been categorized, and the similarity to what proponents of sex addict describe to those disorders, that will certainly change.

The second dismisses the similarity in brain activity as being similar to any pleasurable sensation. That totally misses the point, since it's exactly the malfunction/overuse of the brain's pleasure centers that cause addiction generally. Cocaine has essentially no withdrawal symptoms, it's the havoc wreaked on the dopeamine loop.

And you don't need to copy any studies. You can cite them, and anybody who wants can read critiques of them. If I have time I can browse them if they'll turn up on Pubmed.
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There's obviously a split in the professional community on this subject (which I hope you realize now) and as the article I posted suggests, many people have professional motivations for clinging to this belief system. So the idea that you and I are going to exchange more posts on a guitar forum and come to an agreement is optimistic. The article I posted also suggested there are other more reasonable diagnoses to be made for people experiencing lack of control issues and some tried and true methods for treatment. So no one is suggesting these people don't have problems, they're just not agreed that the problem is an addiction to sex.

My reference to gluten was a joke, but the percentage of people with celiac disorder in no way warrants the number of gluten free frozen waffles at Trader Joe's compared to their regular frozen waffles.
 
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