I may be out of a job soon.

Sad Navigator said:
What's "hipster" about being grossed out by seemingly un-thinking, seemingly un-ironic appeals to Manifest Destiny and the American Dream and the rest of that rah-rah American Exceptionalism nonsense?

Have you considered the fact that maybe America isn't special, isn't a "shining city on a hill," and, in fact, is made up of people not terribly different than Costa Ricans or Macedonians or whomever who do not feel they have some quasi-divine right to keep expanding into and claiming ownership of the places that they "discover?" I mean, the American Dream basically says that Americans (because they're special) deserve or should achieve a better, richer, and happier life. The "-er" implies THAN SOMEONE ELSE.

In short, what makes you so special?
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This probably does more to damage your argument, but I agree with you. :embarrassed:

Myself, I'm just waiting for the zombie apocalypse.
 
335clone said:
No partial quoting, Mark.
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Why not? I was curious about this...
335clone said:
Acoustic launch and trans orbital simulation. There is an acoustic chamber large enough to stand the Hubble on end inside. There are a number of gas driven horns, from 20Hz to 350hz (if memory serves me) that are driven by high pressure nitrogen. These horns reproduce the vibrations and stresses of a launch from earth, through the trans orbital range to orbit. Most spacecraft are required to undergo thourogh testing, with hundreds of accelerometers to guage the stresses on the spacecraft. The chamber is also used for acoustic cleaning of components of a spacecraft. For example, the outer barrel assemblies of the Hubble were brought in after initial machining and assembly. We basicaly put a diaper at the bottom and shook the living shit out of it, much like an ultrasonic cleaner. All the left over bits of metal shavings were shaken out of their hiding places into the botom and removed.

Found a pic

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here is a cool video of some of the environmental testing a spacecraft typicaly endures before launch.




God, sometimes I miss my old job.
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all of that is incredibly cool.
 
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zombie apocalypse wipes all of the problems away. New Era begins. Earth starts over again with new creatures.

Worked for us on getting rid of the dinosaurs.
 
Sad Navigator said:
What's "hipster" about being grossed out by seemingly un-thinking, seemingly un-ironic appeals to Manifest Destiny and the American Dream and the rest of that rah-rah American Exceptionalism nonsense?

Have you considered the fact that maybe America isn't special, isn't a "shining city on a hill," and, in fact, is made up of people not terribly different than Costa Ricans or Macedonians or whomever who do not feel they have some quasi-divine right to keep expanding into and claiming ownership of the places that they "discover?" I mean, the American Dream basically says that Americans (because they're special) deserve or should achieve a better, richer, and happier life. The "-er" implies THAN SOMEONE ELSE.

In short, what makes you so special?
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...what makes me so special?...Im an American :wink:...

...I was just joshing...America is far from the "shinning city on the hill"...if anything it more resembles the area at the bottom of the hill, where all the run-off ends up...what I was referring to was the fact that people will be gung ho about how America should be the best, and is, but they dont think it terms of things that will actually help...I for one, and in support of a international space agency, that pools funds, and resources to help manned space flight...

...another point I would like to make is that there is nothing wrong with Nationalism...one should have pride in their country, and think that it is the best...but not at the cost of intelligence...you wont see me with any "America is for Americans, everyone else can fuck off" bumper stickers...but I root for my country in the Olympics (although I think im pulling for Finland in hockey this year)...
 
Coda said:
...another point I would like to make is that there is nothing wrong with Nationalism...one should have pride in their country, and think that it is the best...but not at the cost of intelligence...you wont see me with any "America is for Americans, everyone else can fuck off" bumper stickers...but I root for my country in the Olympics (although I think im pulling for Finland in hockey this year)...
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This is very well said as well, except for the whole Finland thing you commie. :grin:
 
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Coda said:
...another point I would like to make is that there is nothing wrong with Nationalism...one should have pride in their country, and think that it is the best...
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Nothing wrong? Ever heard of the Great War? And they made a fucking sequel that was even worse.
 
Coda said:
...I happen to dig how the Fins play hockey, they dont stand a chance, but none the less...I like rooting for the under under dogs...

...what was so great about it?...
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Fins are evil!!

















Now I say this out of a sense of purely National Pride as I don't really know any Fins, but I think they eat Reindeer, so that must make them evil. Yay America. :helper:
 
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Sad Navigator said:
And they made a fucking sequel that was even worse.
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Sequel had better special effects. No gas?!? Fine, we'll see what we can come up with.

It's fine to believe that your country is the best, unless you are actually presented with hard evidence to the contrary. Scholastically, we are getting our asses kicked in math and science. This is not because we're cutting funding to NASA. I'd say the most likely culprit is the fact that, rather than improving our educational system, we're throwing shit-tons of effort behind teaching our children that Jesus just might have been a dinosaur wrangler. Hey, you can't prove he WASN'T.
 


Here is one of the facilities I work in. In this particular bay I test the wiring and connections on the J2 for insulation breakdown. I spent 2 years on the A1 stand in 1996-98.
 
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Mrs.P said:
Now I say this out of a sense of purely National Pride as I don't really know any Fins, but I think they eat Reindeer, so that must make them evil. Yay America. :helper:
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If you eat Rudlolph.... will your shit glow in the dark? :embarrassed:
 
Sad Navigator said:
Dogs in gas masks?

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...I think its time we stop with these silly games, youve played with my emotions for long enough...but the reality is where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of. Sad Navigator, I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world. Someday you'll understand that. Now, now... Here's looking at you kid. ...
 
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