OMG Politics, I'm over it already.

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apropos Mark's headline thread-

When I opened it, I clicked through to the election story and got this

"US election: Trump set for Republican nomination as Cruz pulls out"

as any good Christian should after fucking America.
 
mongooz said:
if trump becomes president and enacts the things HE has advocated (special security zones around muslim neighborhoods, mass deporation of families (regardless of their immigration status), bring back waterboarding and many other far more severe torture, beating up protesters, etc.) can you imagine the rioting that will occur across the nation? everything he has advocated has been anti-democracy.
i'm saying if he does these things, do not be surprised if the people being oppressed by him react violently.
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They'll be cool with it once they realize how great America is... again.
 
jp_nyc said:
So does Trump beating Cruz mean that the religious and their wedge issues are no longer a solid voting block? Or have they gone so bonkers that it takes a facist anti-Muslim campaign to hold their attention?
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A lot of the former, some of the latter.
 
Steverino said:
Agreed, it's bad on both sides.



But wait.. No, it's Trump's fault. He started it. These folks were saints before Trump awakened them like zombies from the grave. Had he just kept quiet...



I just don't know what to think about this place sometimes.

Violence against Trump supporters isn't only ignored, but when it is brought up here, it's quickly stomped out and Trump is even blamed for it, then right behind that, it's suggested that he could be/should be shot. Right here on this forum, in this thread, where everyone has been clapping each other on the back for taking the high road?

Sorry guys, I like and respect you all. Forgive me in advance, you guys continue.

I see hypocrisy, and it goes unchecked. I couldn't ignore it. Feel free to assail me place me in front of the MWGF firing squad. I know I have it coming now.
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No need to assail anyone, you have your opinion and spoke it. Thats cool with me. Trump clearly has set the bar low by his words and actions, which amounts to leadership from the top. You call me hypocritical, yet I don't remember a post from you decrying the violence against protesters at Trump rallies. I do very much welcome your input here, and hope you and other conservatives continue to post. We need more exchanges of ideas and opinions in a respectful dialogue, not less.
 
Geez, I just stopped in to Welcome Carly Fiorina back into the fray, and damn if she isn't once again on the outside looking in.

As someone who lives a few miles from what used to be a massive Hewlett Packard campus that employed upwards of 30,000 San Diego residents, many of them friends and family, I can only say...

Ha ha!

Fuck you Carly! Sucks to get shitcanned doesn't it?

Filthy wretch.
 
OGG said:
As someone who lives a few miles from what used to be a massive Hewlett Packard campus that employed upwards of 30,000 San Diego residents, many of them friends and family, I can only say...

Ha ha!

Fuck you Carly! Sucks to get shitcanned doesn't it?

Filthy wretch.
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HP/Compaq facilities 3 miles from where I live here just outside of H-town. My sentiments sync with yours exactly.
 
335clone said:
You call me hypocritical, yet I don't remember a post from you decrying the violence against protesters at Trump rallies.
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I did, it's even in your reply to me. Violence against protesters at Trump rallies is well documented everywhere, including here, but not much to the contrary, and when it was mentioned here, it was quickly dismissed. Therein lies the hypocrisy; I saw it and pointed it out. It's out there all right, on both sides. And it's embarrassing.

Just for the record, I'm a moderate, not a Trump guy. He scares the shit out of me, and equally so, the people who are going to nuts if he were to win the election. It's a lose/lose. I voted for Ron Paul in '08 as my silly little way of protesting our crappy 2-party system, and Romney with my nose held. Hell, I'd welcome Mitt Romney this time around, that's how messed up this election is. 300+ million people here in the United States, and we've chosen Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump? Is that the best we could do?

I do very much welcome your input here, and hope you and other conservatives continue to post. We need more exchanges of ideas and opinions in a respectful dialogue, not less.
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There are a few folks here who lean to the right or middle, but unlike me, were smart enough to know better than to step into this thread. I seriously doubt conservative opinions would be welcome here. That's why this thread will continue, out of respect for Mark and the rest of you guys posting here. And this will be my last post here too. I'm not hard-right, so I'm not who you're looking to debate with anyway. I'm sorry if I ruffled any feathers, I guess I'm just getting cranky. I'll keep reading. You guys have fun.
 
Steverino said:
I did, it's even in your reply to me. Violence against protesters at Trump rallies is well documented everywhere, including here, but not much to the contrary, and when it was mentioned here, it was quickly dismissed. Therein lies the hypocrisy; I saw it and pointed it out. It's out there all right, on both sides. And it's embarrassing.

Just for the record, I'm a moderate, not a Trump guy. He scares the shit out of me, and equally so, the people who are going to nuts if he were to win the election. It's a lose/lose. I voted for Ron Paul in '08 as my silly little way of protesting our crappy 2-party system, and Romney with my nose held. Hell, I'd welcome Mitt Romney this time around, that's how messed up this election is. 300+ million people here in the United States, and we've chosen Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump? Is that the best we could do?



There are a few folks here who lean to the right or middle, but unlike me, were smart enough to know better than to step into this thread. I seriously doubt conservative opinions would be welcome here. That's why this thread will continue, out of respect for Mark and the rest of you guys posting here. And this will be my last post here too. I'm not hard-right, so I'm not who you're looking to debate with anyway. I'm sorry if I ruffled any feathers, I guess I'm just getting cranky. I'll keep reading. You guys have fun.
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I mean, Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney have far more in common than they have differences. They're both very moderate representations of their party and are basically the same sides of a coin. That's why a lot of the true liberal branch of the Democratic Party favour Sanders.
 
And Kasich's spokesman claims he'll be exiting the race this evening.

To steal a line from Poe:

My brain reeled as I saw the mighty walls rushing asunder — there was a long tumultuous shouting sound like the voice of a thousand waters — and the deep and dank tarn at my feet closed sullenly and silently over the fragments of the “Grand Old Party.”
 
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Kerouac said:
I mean, Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney have far more in common than they have differences. They're both very moderate representations of their party and are basically the same sides of a coin. That's why a lot of the true liberal branch of the Democratic Party favour Sanders.
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There is a firm held belief within the republican party that McCain and Romney were both chosen by "the media" in the primaries because they could be beaten by a moderate democrat in the general, and what was really needed was a super conservative. I think this years election bears the fruit of that type of rhetoric.

@Steverino I also see the hypocrisy you mentioned. There are folks here who will always decry violence and when it is suggested that perhaps people brought it on themselves, you'll have a few of them letting you know how wrong you are. I've gone down that road. They aren't going to show up for this, because they disagree with Trump and what he stands for so now somehow violence is ok... or something.
 
Steverino said:
I did, it's even in your reply to me. Violence against protesters at Trump rallies is well documented everywhere, including here, but not much to the contrary, and when it was mentioned here, it was quickly dismissed. Therein lies the hypocrisy; I saw it and pointed it out. It's out there all right, on both sides. And it's embarrassing.

Just for the record, I'm a moderate, not a Trump guy. He scares the shit out of me, and equally so, the people who are going to nuts if he were to win the election. It's a lose/lose. I voted for Ron Paul in '08 as my silly little way of protesting our crappy 2-party system, and Romney with my nose held. Hell, I'd welcome Mitt Romney this time around, that's how messed up this election is. 300+ million people here in the United States, and we've chosen Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump? Is that the best we could do?



There are a few folks here who lean to the right or middle, but unlike me, were smart enough to know better than to step into this thread. I seriously doubt conservative opinions would be welcome here. That's why this thread will continue, out of respect for Mark and the rest of you guys posting here. And this will be my last post here too. I'm not hard-right, so I'm not who you're looking to debate with anyway. I'm sorry if I ruffled any feathers, I guess I'm just getting cranky. I'll keep reading. You guys have fun.
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Everybody pile on Steverino so he's not disappointed.
 
Now that the die is cast, let's outline the prominent GOP talking points heading into the General Election:

Has Hillary ever smoked pot?
On a scale from 1 to 10, how much does Hillary love America?
How often does Hillary pray and how strong is her personal relationship with her Lord and Saviour?
Bowel movements and urination...how much should the government get involved?
Baby-killing

Am I missing anything?
 
Theodore said:
Everybody pile on Steverino so he's not disappointed.
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I'm sure he cares a whole lot less about what you think of him than you give him credit for. Dude spoke his mind and bowed out gracefully. If you disagree with it that's fine, but you should probably keep the personal attacks to yourself unless you want this thread closed.
 
rhino said:
I'm sure he cares a whole lot less about what you think of him than you give him credit for. Dude spoke his mind and bowed out gracefully. If you disagree with it that's fine, but you should probably keep the personal attacks to yourself unless you want this thread closed.
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I AM KIDDING, YOU DOPE.
 
VoidTerraFirma said:
Now that the die is cast, let's outline the prominent GOP talking points heading into the General Election:

Has Hillary ever smoked pot?
On a scale from 1 to 10, how much does Hillary love America?
How often does Hillary pray and how strong is her personal relationship with her Lord and Saviour?
Bowel movements and urination...how much should the government get involved?
Baby-killing

Am I missing anything?
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This whole election will be about her using her own email server as Secretary of State.

I get why Bernie didn't want to harp on it, but if anybody thinks Trump won't, they're delusional. It would've probably been better to have made that case in the primaries with another democrat, and make sure she was still electable for the general. I'm not saying it will work one way or the other, but I think there are a lot of people who will get so sick of hearing about it they won't vote for either one of them.
 
Just want to say again that I don't condone any violence to anyone. I get what Mongooz is saying if those proposals Mr. Trump suggests were enacted and there was actual Muslim patrols, waterboarding, attacks on suspected terrorist families, etc. (Wow, makes it sound like Delores Uumbridge took over Hogwarts. Where are the dementors?) If that really were to occur, I would be concerned that violence might also occur. And depending on the illegality of the action, it might then be justified in resistance. Just like pre WWII. But until then, it is all just talk, and violence toward anyone whether as part of a protest or not, trashing police cars, or private property, basically anything beyond peaceful protest ala Dr. King is dumb, counterproductive, and just plain wrong.
 
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