National Football League 2019

NFL is getting tough to watch. Seems like a flag on every other play anymore. Between that and the constant replay reviews, the tempo is completely gone.
 
335clone said:
I know. Just sayin back in the day the skins had a rep for having calls go their way at home.
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Back then, I think every fan thought the other team got the calls. It remember the Cowboys always got the calls when we played them, same with the 49ers in the playoffs.
 
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bsman said:
Oh C'mon. The Packers are the REAL America's Team. Fuck Dallas and their billionaire owner. The people of Wisconsin, baby!
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Well they are (or were at least) a team of the people, in that the team is owned and managed by the community. Is that still true?
 
Guitar Heel said:
Well they are (or were at least) a team of the people, in that the team is owned and managed by the community. Is that still true?
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Yes:
"Green Bay Packers, Inc. is the official name of the publicly held nonprofit corporation that owns the Green Bay Packers football franchise of the National Football League (NFL).

The Packers are the only publicly owned franchise in the NFL.[1] Rather than being the property of an individual, partnership, or corporate entity, they are held as of 2016 by 360,760 stockholders. No one is allowed to hold more than 200,000 shares,[2] which represents approximately four percent of the 5,011,558 shares currently outstanding.[3] It is this broad-based community support and non-profit structure[4] which has kept the team in Green Bay for over a century in spite of being the smallest market in all of North American professional sports.

Green Bay is the only team with this public form of ownership structure in the NFL, grandfathered when the NFL's current ownership policy stipulating a maximum of 32 owners per team, with one holding a minimum 30% stake, was established in the 1980s.[5] As a publicly held nonprofit, the Packers are also the only American major-league sports franchise to release its financial balance sheet every year."
 
bsman said:
Yes:
"Green Bay Packers, Inc. is the official name of the publicly held nonprofit corporation that owns the Green Bay Packers football franchise of the National Football League (NFL).

The Packers are the only publicly owned franchise in the NFL.[1] Rather than being the property of an individual, partnership, or corporate entity, they are held as of 2016 by 360,760 stockholders. No one is allowed to hold more than 200,000 shares,[2] which represents approximately four percent of the 5,011,558 shares currently outstanding.[3] It is this broad-based community support and non-profit structure[4] which has kept the team in Green Bay for over a century in spite of being the smallest market in all of North American professional sports.

Green Bay is the only team with this public form of ownership structure in the NFL, grandfathered when the NFL's current ownership policy stipulating a maximum of 32 owners per team, with one holding a minimum 30% stake, was established in the 1980s.[5] As a publicly held nonprofit, the Packers are also the only American major-league sports franchise to release its financial balance sheet every year."
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"Even though it is referred to as "common stock" in corporate offering documents, a share of Packers stock does not share the same rights traditionally associated with common or preferred stock. It does not include an equity interest, does not pay dividends, cannot be traded, and has no protection under securities law. It also confers no season-ticket purchasing privileges. Shareholders receive nothing more than voting rights, an invitation to the corporation's annual meeting, and an opportunity to purchase exclusive shareholder-only merchandise.[4]

Shares cannot be resold, except back to the team for a fraction of the original price. While new shares can be given as gifts, transfers are technically allowed only between immediate family members once ownership has been established."

So buying the stock really means nothing, you get a certificate you can frame and access to exclusive merchandise. They are the Kiss of the NFL :grin:
 
Chad said:
"Even though it is referred to as "common stock" in corporate offering documents, a share of Packers stock does not share the same rights traditionally associated with common or preferred stock. It does not include an equity interest, does not pay dividends, cannot be traded, and has no protection under securities law. It also confers no season-ticket purchasing privileges. Shareholders receive nothing more than voting rights, an invitation to the corporation's annual meeting, and an opportunity to purchase exclusive shareholder-only merchandise.[4]

Shares cannot be resold, except back to the team for a fraction of the original price. While new shares can be given as gifts, transfers are technically allowed only between immediate family members once ownership has been established."

So buying the stock really means nothing, you get a certificate you can frame and access to exclusive merchandise. They are the Kiss of the NFL :grin:
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However, it also means that the team cannot take some of the actions other NFL teams have (i.e. threatening to move, or moving in the middle of the night) without a vote of shareholders, essentially guaranteeing that the team will remain in Green Bay for perpetuity. That, in and of itself, is HUGE!
 
bsman said:
However, it also means that the team cannot take some of the actions other NFL teams have (i.e. threatening to move, or moving in the middle of the night) without a vote of shareholders, essentially guaranteeing that the team will remain in Green Bay for perpetuity. That, in and of itself, is HUGE!
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Does it? I thought shareholders only got to vote on the 45 member board of directors and the executive committee. According to SI "Packers shareholders vote to elect Green Bay’s board of directors and a seven-member executive committee that represents the team at league meetings, but they have no real say in team decisions, football or otherwise." I honestly don't know.

I also don't think the NFL would ever let the Packers leave Green Bay. In a way, having it publicly owned, there is no 'owner' to claim he is losing money or can't get a stadium built so that helps keep the team in place even if stockholders don't get to vote on that. Maybe the board of directors could complain to the NFL.
 
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