New Lesson - Guitar Quicktips #2 - Making Barre Chords Work

Mark Wein

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This is the "final" version of the test video I posted last week...its actually video #2 in the series:

 
I've been playing guitar for 20+ years now, I'm a good player, never had trouble with barre chords.

Then I took up mandolin this year. Brutal.
 
I've been playing guitar for 20+ years now, I'm a good player, never had trouble with barre chords.

Then I took up mandolin this year. Brutal.
You most likely started playing guitar after piano where you studied with an appropriate emphasis on technique and then played classical guitar, again not treating technical studies like they were voodoo magic designed to get in the way of your Sublime and Greenday songs.

I'd have to say that the vast majority of the people that I teach should have no problems whatsoever playing full barre chords if they just spent a couple of days getting their hands working properly.
 
That's is a good length for a Quicktip. It gives the viewer something to work on but doesn't require a big time commitment to watch. Bravo for getting to the point, too.
 
That's is a good length for a Quicktip. It gives the viewer something to work on but doesn't require a big time commitment to watch. Bravo for getting to the point, too.
Thanks! I wanted to have a batch of small videos that reinforced the technical issues that students lose track of when they go home from the lesson. That way they can see and hear what I've taught them between lessons too. I think most of my "Quicktip" lessons are perhaps a little longer at 4-5 minutes but they also need to be a complete idea too...I'm hoping that if I do get nominated for the Truefire contest that this batch of lessons will also get the ball rolling a little for me ahead of time too...I've not put any lessons up for nearly a year.
 
You most likely started playing guitar after piano where you studied with an appropriate emphasis on technique and then played classical guitar, again not treating technical studies like they were voodoo magic designed to get in the way of your Sublime and Greenday songs.

I'd have to say that the vast majority of the people that I teach should have no problems whatsoever playing full barre chords if they just spent a couple of days getting their hands working properly.

Oh yeah, I'm not saying that it's something that you do intuitively. Any technique requires practice and understanding of the mechanics.

All I'm saying is that I'm having a hard time with advanced LH mandolin technique.
 
Oh yeah, I'm not saying that it's something that you do intuitively. Any technique requires practice and understanding of the mechanics.

All I'm saying is that I'm having a hard time with advanced LH mandolin technique.
What are the sticking points? I've always wanted to play mandolin but I've not wanted to take time away from the guitar.
 
What are the sticking points? I've always wanted to play mandolin but I've not wanted to take time away from the guitar.

String tension, mainly, I guess; 8 strings with a tremendous amount of tension.

Scales are very easy, compared to a guitar... But more complex chords that require the entire hand, trills, hammer-ons and pull-offs, and barres... Are very difficult.
 
String tension, mainly, I guess; 8 strings with a tremendous amount of tension.

Scales are very easy, compared to a guitar... But more complex chords that require the entire hand, trills, hammer-ons and pull-offs, and barres... Are very difficult.
Makes sense. Someday I'll give it a spin :)
 
@Mark Wein, I think an octave mando would be a bit more comfortable for you on a physical level, but its a really beautiful instrument on it's own.

The majority of my actual practice this year has been mando related. My guitar playing has almost entirely been devoted to songwriting.
 
@Mark Wein, I think an octave mando would be a bit more comfortable for you on a physical level, but its a really beautiful instrument on it's own.

The majority of my actual practice this year has been mando related. My guitar playing has almost entirely been devoted to songwriting.

Downside of the octave mandolin is that the scale length would make many things unplayable. Mandola would be a compromise. But I don't know; my hands have to be about as big as Mark's.
 
Ok, going back to this, because after a couple years of being lazy and not playing much, and most of that cowboy chords, my technique sucks. Also, over the years, I tended to cheat it and use the Hendrix thumb over way most of the time, though I cannot warrant I was getting clean tones out of all strings a lot of the time. I am now playing in an online group who wants to take turns on zoom, and also maybe set up the Jamulus thing for interactive jamming, with an emphasis on Brandi Carlile Band and BCB adjacent music, so a lot of it will be acoustic singer/songwriter style. And on my acoustic, my F#m chord really sucks right now.

Any updated thoughts on this, or any changes for an acoustic instrument? Wouldn’t think so, based on the mandolin discussion above related to string tension. But just checking anyway.

 
Being lefty and starting to play righty at 30 fretting felt natural. My love of all kinds of music since I was a child gave me a natural internal rhythm. It’s weird, I can’t tell you the beat, but once I hear it I can keep it.

Barr chords I can do but due to stiff injured fingers I’m not fast. I usually cheat by playing the barred strings only until I can get the other fingers in position.
 
Ok, going back to this, because after a couple years of being lazy and not playing much, and most of that cowboy chords, my technique sucks. Also, over the years, I tended to cheat it and use the Hendrix thumb over way most of the time, though I cannot warrant I was getting clean tones out of all strings a lot of the time. I am now playing in an online group who wants to take turns on zoom, and also maybe set up the Jamulus thing for interactive jamming, with an emphasis on Brandi Carlile Band and BCB adjacent music, so a lot of it will be acoustic singer/songwriter style. And on my acoustic, my F#m chord really sucks right now.

Any updated thoughts on this, or any changes for an acoustic instrument? Wouldn’t think so, based on the mandolin discussion above related to string tension. But just checking anyway.


Probably not, although I haven't seen this video in 7 years so I barely remember what I said in it.
 
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