Challenged by my daughter's friend...(guitar content)

cfgsteak said:
Guess what Good_User_Name, you are a fucking dick three times over.

I thought this was a "guitar lesson forum", not a "shit on a guy who is having a bit of trouble figuring out a part of a song he has been trying to play for all of 20 minutes forum".

So Good_User_Name, you and Flamencology can go fuck yourselves. stfu

Prages, thanks for the help. Needless to say, I will never ask for anymore.
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Apologies - I honestly never meant to tease, or whatever. Maybe I'm just an asshole this week, but I was just a bit puzzled as to why you were having problems, and was completely serious earlier when I asked if you could be more specific with regards to the difficulties you're having. I'd much prefer to be a helper, but isolating a problem and discussing it is more my style than posting a vid, as I don't always have an instrument and recording gear handy, and as my head is looking like the Frankenstein monster's these days.
 
Is that what your gonna tell your daughter's friend next time she asks you to play something? SHE"S the one who started this shit, little bitch. :mad:

lolbutnosrrrsly, if it makes you feel any better, im pretty jealous of flamencology. Anyone who plays flamenco is automaticly (sp) better than me, thats one style of playing i don't touch because i know i don't even stand a chance with it. And sorry if that was a dick thing to say, i ment nothing by it dude. It sounds like your one of those players who uses the guitar as a song-writing tool alot, respect. I can't write a song to save my ass. I wish i were joking. :cry:
 
CFG - don't worry about it. Until our band added Sweet Home about three years ago I had never played the song and had to find a good TAB to figure it out myself and I've been playing (mostly badly) for over 30 years.
 
cfgsteak said:
Guess what Good_User_Name, you are a fucking dick three times over.

I thought this was a "guitar lesson forum", not a "shit on a guy who is having a bit of trouble figuring out a part of a song he has been trying to play for all of 20 minutes forum".

So Good_User_Name, you and Flamencology can go fuck yourselves. stfu

Prages, thanks for the help. Needless to say, I will never ask for anymore.
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:facepalm:

-jizzhands
 
good_user_name said:
lolbutnosrrrsly, if it makes you feel any better, im pretty jealous of flamencology. Anyone who plays flamenco is automaticly (sp) better than me, thats one style of playing i don't touch because i know i don't even stand a chance with it.
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I registered that moniker at GJ when I was in my teens, and going through a flamenco kick. I never really ever became that good at it. I'm a jazz and classical multi-instrumentalist, I guess... being best at piano, drums/percussion, and guitar, in order from best to worst. Though I play some other instruments as well.
 
I didn't mean the one year thing, btw.. I just think its made up of some pretty basic chords......its one of those songs i kind of learned to play on accident. I can see how someone could play a decade and never learn it if they didn't want too, but its just one of those rite of passage songs that everyone seems to learn. Anyway, sorry.
 
My problem isnt the chording, that parts easy. I'm pretty much a strummer, and i flub the picking part. Its my pick hand that is the problem.

And i flub it because frankly im not that great at guitar. And i can live with that. :grin:
 
Flamencology said:
I registered that moniker at GJ when I was in my teens, and going through a flamenco kick. I never really ever became that good at it. I'm a jazz and classical multi-instrumentalist, I guess... being best at piano, drums/percussion, and guitar, in order from best to worst. Though I play some other instruments as well.
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Yeah, but you at least tackled it for a while, i tried it for about 5 minutes and gave up. I only play guitar and sax, and i only played sax in my high school band classes. Wish i could play piano too, iv spent loads of time trying to work out the easiest ways to play my favorite classical works on guitar, simply because i don't play piano. Iv thought alot about taking piano lessons, maybe some day........
 
Flamencology said:
Apologies - I honestly never meant to tease, or whatever. Maybe I'm just an asshole this week, but I was just a bit puzzled as to why you were having problems, and was completely serious earlier when I asked if you could be more specific with regards to the difficulties you're having. I'd much prefer to be a helper, but isolating a problem and discussing it is more my style than posting a vid, as I don't always have an instrument and recording gear handy, and as my head is looking like the Frankenstein monster's these days.
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You're no more an asshole than I am. :shrug:






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CFG, it doesn't matter how long you've been playing. I've been playing for SEVENTEEN YEARS and a lot of solos are beyond my abilities (most of which is due to medical issues, however.) There are players here who could easily blow me away, but I play because I love it and I teach because even if I can't play it I can explain it in a way that makes sense. If you need any hep, feel free to PM me. :)
 
Kerouac said:
You're no more an asshole than I am. :shrug:

CFG, it doesn't matter how long you've been playing. I've been playing for SEVENTEEN YEARS and a lot of solos are beyond my abilities (most of which is due to medical issues, however.) There are players here who could easily blow me away, but I play because I love it and I teach because even if I can't play it I can explain it in a way that makes sense. If you need any hep, feel free to PM me. :)
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Thats interesting. Do you have any students who you would say have gone on to be a better musician than you are now?
 
Phil513 said:
Thats interesting. Do you have any students who you would say have gone on to be a better musician than you are now?
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Id say I have some that in certain areas can equal me or barely surpass me as a PLAYER, but not as a musician. Guitar isn't my only instrument and I do a lot of composing and arranging as well.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
rotflmao
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*lights cigarette*

*squeezes cig between headstock and string, starts in on little wing with chord substitutions and smokey jass motifs. Pinches off some ash for better pick-grippage on wailing solo*

What's so funny? :grin:

*Forgets how to resolve last verse, fucks up and hits the wrong chord three times trying to make it sound like it was planned*

:embarrassed:
 
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cgsteak- I had quite a bit of trouble with that tune too, but after a couple of days I was able to get it down. The biggest problem I had was getting that nice bounce in the into riff. After I got that part the rest fell into place a little easier. Between Prages video and your tab I'm sure you'll nail it.
 
CFG... I think I can picture the stumbling block that you may be having, and it may be a technique hurdle moreso than any "ability" thing.

Because the song is D chord.. up notes... C chord... up notes... G chord.. strum... picky da dicky doo...

I'm guessing that your issue is an "accuracy/feel" thing with the string skipping.




If you hold your pick mostly as a "flat pick" meaning against your thumb, and primarily do downstrokes like a lot of rock or metal chording, then I can see where this will feel alien to you.

Try to choke up near the tip of the pick, supporting the lower side with your pointer and middle finger.... like you're holding a very small pencil.

The chord down strokes will be like you're drawing the tops of the letter T across a few strings... but then on the individual notes, you're drawing the middle line of two EE's coming back with upstrokes.




Then I'd play the following pull off licks with alternating strokes, starting with an upstroke....

So it's Tdown (Dchord) Eup (Dnotes) Tdown (Cchord) Eup (Dnotes) Tdown (Gchord) Strum down...

Then the deedly deely lick...

Repeat the part above and...

and finishing off with upstroke (fretted note) - pull off (to open) -downstroke (ont the open again)... upstroke (fretted) - pull off (open) -downstroke (open)... fretted vibrato... and you're all ready for the following downstroke on repeating the whole thing.






I never really think about my up and down strokes because I spent alot of time with what Frank Gambale refers to as "Economy Picking" where you use whatever is the most efficient, use of up and down stroking... even if it means starting with an upstroke, so you only use down down or up up when travelling from that string to the next. Your right hand ends up working half as much as your left hand, and then you always end with your pick ready for the next part. There's never "lift the pick and go back to the ready position for a down stroke" It just doesn't happen because you're fluidly moving up and down naturally.

Hope this helps.
 
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I've always just had to play D, C, G over and over again and sing when my old band played that song. The other guitar player did all the little fancy licks. :embarrassed: Now that I'm trying to do more solo stuff I guess I'll have to learn the actual intro. :embarrassed:
 
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