I have an urge to learn a new instrument, but which one,?

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Ive had this for a while now. A real urge to try something new. I think it started a couple of years ago when one of my daughters joined the 'orchestra class' at her school and started learning the saxophone. Ive narrowed it down to either a violin or an oboe. I can only say it's been narrowed down by sounds that I like, it's as simple as that. The cost shouldn't be too high as Id go for the cheap student type instruments. Is this stupid?
If anyone has an idea Im open to offers. Im a mediocre guitarist at best but Ive read that any prior musical knowledge can help so Im hoping it won't be too hard.

Maybe I should just buy an Xbox instead :shrug:
 
I'd vote for the violin and I'm only basing it on the sounds I like. Whatever one you decide on, give it a shot. Only drawback, depending on your living arrangement, someone might shoot you to make it stop.
 
Oboe is a double reed, very difficult, and way more expensive. Plus, there isn’t as much as much opportunity to jam along with other folks if you get decent.

There is a long tradition of solo fiddle tunes so lots of material to learn. It’s easy to pack up and bring to a jam. If fiddle isn’t your thing, and you’re more interested in orchestral stuff, viola is pretty rad.

There are lots and lots of very cheap violins and violas out there. Spending a little more than the cheapest student model will get an instrument with much better playability. You can also get a mute, which will be appreciated by the other people in your house.
 
Oboe is a double reed, very difficult, and way more expensive. Plus, there isn’t as much as much opportunity to jam along with other folks if you get decent.

There is a long tradition of solo fiddle tunes so lots of material to learn. It’s easy to pack up and bring to a jam. If fiddle isn’t your thing, and you’re more interested in orchestral stuff, viola is pretty rad.

There are lots and lots of very cheap violins and violas out there. Spending a little more than the cheapest student model will get an instrument with much better playability. You can also get a mute, which will be appreciated by the other people in your house.

Yeah, oboe is one of the trickier woodwinds. Violin/fiddle can be pretty awful sounding in the early days.

Piano would probably be the most useful second instrument to pick up. Or drums.
 
Violin would be a lot more versatile. I've heard oboe is difficult, and can attest that the learning curve for violin is steep. I took a couple of lessons to start because there's so many little things you can get wrong that will be an impediment if it becomes habit.
 
Yeah, oboe is one of the trickier woodwinds. Violin/fiddle can be pretty awful sounding in the early days.

Piano would probably be the most useful second instrument to pick up. Or drums.

Second for piano. If you know theory it’s pretty quick to pick up. Just have to get the dexterity in your fingers. If you don’t know theory or only know guitar player theory, you’ll learn theory proper by learning piano. It’ll make you an all around better musician
 
Thanks fellas, If I do get something I think it'll now be a violin. I really like the sound some oboe players can get out of their instrument but what with that double reed thing I think that's maybe a bit too much.

Thanks for your input, it's appreciated!

Im thinking of something around the $200 mark or thereabouts. Ive seen some models for $70 or so bit I think ill give them a miss, unless anyone knows better!
 
Thanks fellas, If I do get something I think it'll now be a violin. I really like the sound some oboe players can get out of their instrument but what with that double reed thing I think that's maybe a bit too much.

Thanks for your input, it's appreciated!

Im thinking of something around the $200 mark or thereabouts. Ive seen some models for $70 or so bit I think ill give them a miss, unless anyone knows better!

If I decided I want to play the violin and was going to buy my first violin, I think it would be like buying a first guitar. I know violin players are going to be more rare than guitar players but, ask around. Maybe a friend of a friend, relative of a relative. Somebody that knows what they are doing. Also, buy used. if you decide you hate it, you can sell it for close to what you paid for it.
 
I would recommend piano. That was my first instrument, and it allows me to understand the full range of the music scale and understand how rhythm's, bass lines and melodies work together.

Plus I learned as a teenager girls really dig piano players.
 
Ive messed around with fiddle off and on since the 80s. Ive owned 3 of them, still have 2. Here's my experience for what its worth.

My 1st/1980s. Went to a local violin shop and got their "beginner" model. It was brand new, Chinese, and they charged me $300. They set it up well and it proved relatively easy to get a sound out of. But....after gaining some proficiency I realized its tone was sht. Harsh, loud, and bright with no warmth or depth of tone. I grew to hate it and quit playing. Eventually sold it for $100 I think. I realized they sold me a cheap piece of crap that was set up correctly but would always sound like ass. Only possible utility would be to electrify it with a really good eq/preamp to try to get some warmth into the tone. They ripped me off big time. Therefore I dont trust violin shops that cater to beginners. Lesson learned-avoid low end Chinese fiddles and shops that mostly rent and cater to parents of beginners and other random suckers.

2nd attempt/1990s- A buddy had a music store specializing in bluegrass/acoustics for the most part. He had 5-6 old fiddles priced from $200-$300. I had a really good local fiddle player play them all and I picked the one that sounded best to me. It was an old mail order violin made in Chicago from the 30s. I still have it, its a great sounding fiddle, loud but warm. But.......turns out it has issues. It was in pieces at one time and was put back together and refinished very unprofessionally. The neck is slightly out of line and the angle is too shallow. Any violin builder would take one look at it and consider it garbage. It sounds great but its so haphazardly assembled that if you get used to it, any other violin feels off. Plus its really loud, great if you are great, not a positive for your housemates if you're not. Hard to explain but even tho it sounds great its just hard to set up, weird to play, and too damn loud for a hack like me. Lesson learned- dont go completely on sound, construction quality is important, and louder isn't necc better even if its a great tone.

3rd try/about 3 years ago-Attended a large popular long established Fiddlers Convention/Contest and checked out the vendors/sellers looking for another $200-300 fiddle. I found one that had a sweet tone and was well put together. I think its German, but it could be Slavic in origin. Its sounded sweet but not too loud. I really like it.

Bottom line-dont fall for brand new cheap beginner stuff. Go somewhere where there is a good selection of old fiddles, like a big festival where theres multiple vendors. If you cant play get someone who can and listen. Look closely at any repairs. Go for something that sounds sweet to you but remember louder isn't necc better, esp for a beginner.

Bows-this is a whole nother can o worms. IMO a beginner is best served with something on the heavier side, it will be easier to control. A light bouncy bow can give you a lot of dynamics but will probably sound scratchy and get out of hand and tend to fly away on you. With a heavier bow you can let the weight of the bow pull out the tone leaving you to concentrate on other things like staying relaxed and avoiding tension.
IMO to start just get a inexpensive fiberglass bow thats kinda heavy but has real horsehair on it. Could possibly be all the bow you will ever need. Avoid synthetic hair, its the cheapest, doesnt hold rosin well, and just doesnt sound good.
 
Ive messed around with fiddle off and on since the 80s. Ive owned 3 of them, still have 2. Here's my experience for what its worth.

My 1st/1980s. Went to a local violin shop and got their "beginner" model. It was brand new, Chinese, and they charged me $300. They set it up well and it proved relatively easy to get a sound out of. But....after gaining some proficiency I realized its tone was sht. Harsh, loud, and bright with no warmth or depth of tone. I grew to hate it and quit playing. Eventually sold it for $100 I think. I realized they sold me a cheap piece of crap that was set up correctly but would always sound like ass. Only possible utility would be to electrify it with a really good eq/preamp to try to get some warmth into the tone. They ripped me off big time. Therefore I dont trust violin shops that cater to beginners. Lesson learned-avoid low end Chinese fiddles and shops that mostly rent and cater to parents of beginners and other random suckers.

2nd attempt/1990s- A buddy had a music store specializing in bluegrass/acoustics for the most part. He had 5-6 old fiddles priced from $200-$300. I had a really good local fiddle player play them all and I picked the one that sounded best to me. It was an old mail order violin made in Chicago from the 30s. I still have it, its a great sounding fiddle, loud but warm. But.......turns out it has issues. It was in pieces at one time and was put back together and refinished very unprofessionally. The neck is slightly out of line and the angle is too shallow. Any violin builder would take one look at it and consider it garbage. It sounds great but its so haphazardly assembled that if you get used to it, any other violin feels off. Plus its really loud, great if you are great, not a positive for your housemates if you're not. Hard to explain but even tho it sounds great its just hard to set up, weird to play, and too damn loud for a hack like me. Lesson learned- dont go completely on sound, construction quality is important, and louder isn't necc better even if its a great tone.

3rd try/about 3 years ago-Attended a large popular long established Fiddlers Convention/Contest and checked out the vendors/sellers looking for another $200-300 fiddle. I found one that had a sweet tone and was well put together. I think its German, but it could be Slavic in origin. Its sounded sweet but not too loud. I really like it.

Bottom line-dont fall for brand new cheap beginner stuff. Go somewhere where there is a good selection of old fiddles, like a big festival where theres multiple vendors. If you cant play get someone who can and listen. Look closely at any repairs. Go for something that sounds sweet to you but remember louder isn't necc better, esp for a beginner.

Bows-this is a whole nother can o worms. IMO a beginner is best served with something on the heavier side, it will be easier to control. A light bouncy bow can give you a lot of dynamics but will probably sound scratchy and get out of hand and tend to fly away on you. With a heavier bow you can let the weight of the bow pull out the tone leaving you to concentrate on other things like staying relaxed and avoiding tension.
IMO to start just get a inexpensive fiberglass bow thats kinda heavy but has real horsehair on it. Could possibly be all the bow you will ever need. Avoid synthetic hair, its the cheapest, doesnt hold rosin well, and just doesnt sound good.
Interesting, I decided I wanted to try and learn violin as well. I was lucky in 2 regards, 1) Elderly Instruments was close by, 2) at this time they sold violins. I had built very good trust in them, so I called up and said, I want to learn violin but I don't want a "starter instrument", I trust you folks to pick out a good intermediate instrument. So they did, was built in Germany and about 100 years old at the time. I remember I went to a group lesson there soon after I purchased. I was a little late getting in, when I entered the instructor asked for the instrument to make sure it was in tune, as he tuned it up and played it a little, he turned to me and said, "where did you get this?" I told him I had acquired it here at Elderly. To which he replied, "How did this escape me?" So, figured, they had done me right. Still have it... never really got proficient... maybe I'll pick it up again someday.
 
Ive messed around with fiddle off and on since the 80s. Ive owned 3 of them, still have 2. Here's my experience for what its worth.

My 1st/1980s. Went to a local violin shop and got their "beginner" model. It was brand new, Chinese, and they charged me $300. They set it up well and it proved relatively easy to get a sound out of. But....after gaining some proficiency I realized its tone was sht. Harsh, loud, and bright with no warmth or depth of tone. I grew to hate it and quit playing. Eventually sold it for $100 I think. I realized they sold me a cheap piece of crap that was set up correctly but would always sound like ass. Only possible utility would be to electrify it with a really good eq/preamp to try to get some warmth into the tone. They ripped me off big time. Therefore I dont trust violin shops that cater to beginners. Lesson learned-avoid low end Chinese fiddles and shops that mostly rent and cater to parents of beginners and other random suckers.

2nd attempt/1990s- A buddy had a music store specializing in bluegrass/acoustics for the most part. He had 5-6 old fiddles priced from $200-$300. I had a really good local fiddle player play them all and I picked the one that sounded best to me. It was an old mail order violin made in Chicago from the 30s. I still have it, its a great sounding fiddle, loud but warm. But.......turns out it has issues. It was in pieces at one time and was put back together and refinished very unprofessionally. The neck is slightly out of line and the angle is too shallow. Any violin builder would take one look at it and consider it garbage. It sounds great but its so haphazardly assembled that if you get used to it, any other violin feels off. Plus its really loud, great if you are great, not a positive for your housemates if you're not. Hard to explain but even tho it sounds great its just hard to set up, weird to play, and too damn loud for a hack like me. Lesson learned- dont go completely on sound, construction quality is important, and louder isn't necc better even if its a great tone.

3rd try/about 3 years ago-Attended a large popular long established Fiddlers Convention/Contest and checked out the vendors/sellers looking for another $200-300 fiddle. I found one that had a sweet tone and was well put together. I think its German, but it could be Slavic in origin. Its sounded sweet but not too loud. I really like it.

Bottom line-dont fall for brand new cheap beginner stuff. Go somewhere where there is a good selection of old fiddles, like a big festival where theres multiple vendors. If you cant play get someone who can and listen. Look closely at any repairs. Go for something that sounds sweet to you but remember louder isn't necc better, esp for a beginner.

Bows-this is a whole nother can o worms. IMO a beginner is best served with something on the heavier side, it will be easier to control. A light bouncy bow can give you a lot of dynamics but will probably sound scratchy and get out of hand and tend to fly away on you. With a heavier bow you can let the weight of the bow pull out the tone leaving you to concentrate on other things like staying relaxed and avoiding tension.
IMO to start just get a inexpensive fiberglass bow thats kinda heavy but has real horsehair on it. Could possibly be all the bow you will ever need. Avoid synthetic hair, its the cheapest, doesnt hold rosin well, and just doesnt sound good.
Thank you. I really appreciate your advice. Last week I desperately wanted to order what would have been a very cheap beginners violin but I held off and after your post I'm glad I did. Im still going to get one but ill look much more closely at what I'm buying
 
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